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What kind of things could a person carry to sell and how if they ever had to forcibly leave?

I read diamonds are worthless second hand.

Solid gold seems legit but not sure if coins or jeweler is best.

I saw something about getting gold chains to trade individual links in a emergency.

Are there any other good tips?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Heroin is quite compact, and always holds its value of you're travelling from lower socioeconomic to higher.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Rofl fleeing country.

Let me get my brick first.

[–] katamari_22@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

GOLD JEWELRY

[–] Briaaahn@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Unironically this. And gold of course. Some things never change. Humans shelling out for shiny being one of them.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Bitcoin is best. Can theoretically keep your wallet seed in your head instead of paper or on phone. Anything physical is subject to border guards or other transporation/exgress/ingress assisters.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Consider the worst comes to worst, you won't have electricity, let alone internet connectivity. Good luck selling any crypto in those circumstances.

Nope, ye olde Gold & Silver are the way to go. Silver for fractional trades, gold for larger ones. Can't beat a couple thousand years of history.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't it drop yesterday by like 20%?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

close to that at low, but ended up down less than 10%. If you are short term, you had opportunity to make 10% in a day. Long term, it is best performing assets, and should still outperform stock indexes in future. Don't depend on it for your rent money for the month or year, but longer term you can probably turn it into a significant portion of a house or EV.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Monero if you need something that's actually untraceable. However, I guess btc is more likely to hold its value in the long term.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

If you just want to escape your country, instead of buying illegal stuff in new country, a privacy coin isn't a necessity.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Praising crypto on Lemmy is one of the deadly sins

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It seems to work like the stock market. I lost faith when it when up and down 10s of thousands of dollars in a few days that doesn't mean that it isn't worth the risk if you are going to lose everything anyway.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I definitely believe more in Crypto and even Bitcoin than the mythical USD printer. But most Lemmings hate it with a passion because it consumes electricity. Same with AI.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah well let's hope no one ever need it then. El salvador just got bought out of using bit coin. Guess someone Is afraid of how useful it is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I mean by afraid.

Oh yes I misread your comment. Indeed you are correct.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Get tattoo of wallet seed lol.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah you need to create a cipher in your head, then you tattoo the encrypted seed. Easier to remember than the seed itself, and only readable by you.

Maybe have a second tattoo to remind you what the cipher is lol. Then another for that one...

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

I've considered some other options:

  1. become an artist and upload "the art" that has a code based ok the number of lines similar to Japanese multiplication with a cipher something like Moriarty uses for text messages but based on the creation date. Common folk will be not be the wiser. Of course that assumes art is not taken down somehow.

  2. cut my arm/hip open and put a micro SD card or projector in there like in the Bourne identity. Probably could just sew it in clothes but no fun in that. BTW cutting arm open for implant takes months to repair so don't recommend. They say 1 month but bs. Took 3.

  3. code is in my paracord based on knots similar to the Futurama nft episode.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Write disguised poem including your wallet seed.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Don't make it fire incase someone wants to steal yo rhymes.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Transfer your money to an overseas bank in your target nation.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I Heard there are some complications with that. Some people said consult a lawyer before moving finances.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good advice. Same with real estate. There are all sorts of laws in target nations you'd never expect. For instance, some nations will tax your money hard if you try to leave them.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

That's why the question is more focused on the "yeah leave now or guarantee camps and possibly worst" situation vs let Me call my law firm of Pearson Specter Litt LLC.
Tough situations could blow over but better to not start from nothing.

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago

Coins vs jewelry doesn't matter. Weight and purity are all that count when selling.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Besides the utility of a go bag.. having portable wealth can get you into trouble with the police or border crossing agents.

Civil asset forfeiture is a very real thing at border crossings. If you must take portable wealth have documentation about where it came from a available

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[–] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A few iphones, they tend to have a high demand and prices are stable for a few years.

This is not advice

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What do you mean by "this is not advice"? You just gave an answer to their request for advice. Your comment is advice.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It only angers your intelligence officials if it is advice. "Not advice" means begging to stay friends. I advise staying friends, overtly, with NSA, to make sure that first they come for others.

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[–] Gayhitler@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you’re planning to leave with enough time, register a business or trust or something, transfer your money to a shell company, repeat as necessary then transfer it to the place you’re trying to go.

Use the tools of the people with money not the tools of people who get patted down for loose change by the tsa.

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[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Currency. Paper money that has high acceptance internationally, like US Dollars or Euros, both can be easily traded by local currency pretty much anywhere in the world.

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[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not just use something like Wise to hold your cash?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

It's a UK company but it says Money can only be delivered to a bank account. Unless I can just load it up like a prepaid card? Which is also a other idea I was considering.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Printer ink.

I’m just kidding… listen to all the other smart people in this thread and not me.

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