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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Youtube is probably the one that you can't "Just Switch To Fediverse"

Youtube content is mainly by creators. If they won't leave, there will be no transition. And unlike reddit posts, you can't just reupload. Because they will copyright strike you and take it down. Also, videos take up a lot more space than just text and some low-res memes like reddit-type sites.

reddit is essentially a bunch of strangers talking to people, moving froms stranger Group A to stranger Group B is very easy to do. The reddit > Lemmy transition is probably one of the easiest. You're just joining a new group of strangers.

For everything else, your contacts will also need to switch.

For Mastodon, the people you follow will also need to switch. This is even harder than getting your friends to switch.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hear me out.

Creators should be hosting peer tubes. And they should host exclusively their own content. Fans of their can subscribe to whatever systems they want to pay and support.

For creators, it's a backup for when YouTube the project inevitably fails. For fans as well. But it's also a backup of their content.

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[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For Mastodon, the people you follow will also need to switch. This is even harder than getting your friends to switch.

Well I switched from the birdsite to Mastodon because a) I like to shout in the void and b) see what other people are shouting into the void. Doesn't really ultimately matter who's doing the shouting. People who go to social media exclusively for news and updates are a bit strange when you really think about it. You've got to have the shout in you.

(I'm only being half facetious here)

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[–] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FB Marketplace --> Flohmarkt is missing!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't heard of it yet but it's very interesting! link for those who struggle to find it among german search results

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[–] Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the switch from YouTube to PeerTube has not worked for me so far. I can't find a decent instance (not full of right-wing/conspiracy content) with interesting stuff that also allows me to make an account.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes finding the right instance on peertube is a nightmare — and also the general lack of quality content, or subtitling, which makes it as good as useless for deaf people like me.

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[–] malcriada_lala@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Matrix. Seems to be the hottest thing for group chats. Also what a lot of open source projects that used IRC before are switching to (or, if not switching, are providing a bridge for).

[–] mitexleo@buddyverse.one 4 points 23 hours ago

Revolt is the way.

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[–] Matombo@feddit.org 99 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Signal is not Fediverse! Element/Matrix is!

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 42 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.

https://joinbookwyrm.com/

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Folks should also check out neodb.social . it's good reads, letterboxd, and steam reviews all in one.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same (Brazil), Whatsapp is pretty much a requirement and I hate that I'm forced to give Meta my information by using their shitty app.

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[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)
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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 168 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (26 children)

Signal isn't federated ^[1][2][3.1]^; it's decentralized ^[1][2][3.2]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

References

  1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
    • This is the source code for the server that Signal uses.
  2. "Signal (software)". Wikipedia. Published: 2025-01-06T09:34Z. Accessed: 2025-02-1T09:30Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software).
    • ¶"Architecture". ¶"Servers".

      Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Signal Messenger. In addition to routing Signal's messages, the servers also facilitate the discovery of contacts who are also registered Signal users and the automatic exchange of users' public keys. […]

  3. "Reflections: The ecosystem is moving". moxie0. Signal Blog. Published: 2016-05-10. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:40Z. https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/.
    1. ¶5. to ¶"Stuck in time". ¶3-6

      One of the controversial things we did with Signal early on was to build it as an unfederated service. Nothing about any of the protocols we’ve developed requires centralization; it’s entirely possible to build a federated Signal Protocol-based messenger, but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all. […] [interoperable protocols] [have] taken us pretty far, but it’s undeniable that once you federate your protocol, it becomes very difficult to make changes. And right now, at the application level, things that stand still don’t fare very well in a world where the ecosystem is moving. […] Early on, I thought we’d federate Signal once its velocity had subsided. Now I realize that things will probably never slow down, and if anything the velocity of the entire landscape seems to be steadily increasing.

    2. ¶"Stuck in time". "Federation and control". ¶6.

      An open source infrastructure for a centralized network now provides almost the same level of control as federated protocols, without giving up the ability to adapt. If a centralized provider with an open source infrastructure ever makes horrible changes, those that disagree have the software they need to run their own alternative instead. It may not be as beautiful as federation, but at this point it seems that it will have to do.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 87 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Yeah. I love Signal but it doesn't belong in that list. Dansup (creator of loops and pixelfed) is apparently working on "Sup" that will be a decentralized alternative to whatsapp.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To me this person sounds like they have too many big projects at once. I wish them success tho

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Loops.video isn't accepting new users atm. Even if it was, I got in on early signup and I have next to zero functionality out of it rn. Just informing the curious masses

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Friendica seems like a new thing? No apps for that yet either

[–] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 21 hours ago

Bookface replicates the Facebook UI in Friendica :)

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

It's been here the a long time actually

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I’ve been on Signal for a while now. Have a bunch of groups but iMessage works with everyone.

It’s been a year and a half here on Lemmy. I still spend a lot of time on Reddit, but won’t comment there anymore.

I don’t WANT a Twitter replacement as it’s really only for celebs and idgaf.

I actually see enough value to pay for YT premium (kids complain incessantly about ads).

Friendica doesn’t seem to have an iOS app, and there’s a critical mass issue with wanting to connect with people that I know in real life.

I’m trying to get my Pixelfed feed to be with checking, and trying to be a regular poster, but it’s still REALLY sparse, and none of these offer the endless meme-video-clip scroll that my wife will have to have before switching away from Insta.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Is there an app for Loops.video?

Edit: Go to https://loops.video/ Make an account, and you should get an email afterwards to download the app from TestFlight or an Android APK.

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A federated social fitness app(like Strava) would be cool

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Unpopular Opinion Lemmy and PeerTube logo look ugly.

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[–] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In my case I deleted instagram, instead of whatsapp I'm going to Matrix (I'll see who I get there), I changed Reddit for Lemmy and I'm trying to find an active Peertube instance that allows for account creation, live, and uploading videos

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