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I was watching a video and it got me thinking about this. We all know the type. The Jewish friend who comes over every year to ask if you have any leftover Easter ham. The Buddhist who everyone will brag saved them in the war. The Bahai who adheres to reincarnation instead of Heaven. The other day, I met a Muslim walking his pet pig. A match made in Heaven.

What's the biggest deviation from the norm you've seen in someone of a certain religion who otherwise would show they genuinely believe in it?

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My aunt is a Catholic and thinks that the Pope is too woke and they should get rid of the Vatican altogether...

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To reduce his carbon footprint the current pope refuses to shit in the woods.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

She has #47 now. Who needs a pope?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

Ugh, too close to home lol

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The man's cult extends far beyond America's borders. Just like the "anti-woke" culture war.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 6 days ago

Jehovah's Witnesses tend to care a lot about the origins of certain social customs. Holding up your drink and doing a toast is forbidden, because it supposedly comes from ancient Greek religious customs.

They also don't do yoga, because it comes from another ancient religious custom. However, acupuncture is allowed. You might find this puzzling, since that practice is just as rooted in ancient religious customs as yoga or any number of other things. Not only that, but yoga has some scientifically proven benefits (broadly speaking; it depends on the specific stretch you're talking about, and some are dangerous) while acupuncture is no better than randomly sticking needles in people. In general, they are very hesitant to call out health care woo, and it's led to a curious contradiction in this case.

Mind you, before I left over a decade ago, I knew quite a few JWs who were quietly doing yoga, anyway.

[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Super Catholic lady cheating on her husband. Then living with the lover and sending the husband bible quotes. That happens to be my ex.

[–] Zhayl@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So sorry to hear that. Being cheated on is one of the most painful experiences. But it is a common thing I've seen from religious people. My best buddy found Jesus again because he is dating a married woman that is hardcore religious. They've been cheating together for nearly 15 years now. She is married to her husbands money and strings my buddy along like a puppy. Looks down on others because they don't do what she believes the bible wants. Fantastic hypocrisy right? I do hope there is an actual Hell for those type because they rarely suffer the consequences for their lack of following their own religion.

[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know it was a pretty awful ordeal. She had her boyfriend serve me. Plus all our church friends threw her a party. Was really painful. It helped me along to become an atheist.

[–] Zhayl@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Sorry to hear you converted under such crappy circumstances. One of the first things I began seeing in "religious" people, not all mind you, is the hypocrisy. Once you start to see it it is everywhere. But it can make you a better person too. You don't have to rely on "god" encouraging you to do something. You have the power and moral to be a good person, not be gauged by some sky father for your actions. To me it makes it mean more when a person does it out of personal responsibility than "because god said" types. Tons of others out there with similar stories, keep your chin up brother.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Disclaimer: I’m not Muslim and didn’t grow up around many Muslims, but I now have a lot of contact with Muslims of varying strictness.

The phrasing in the Quran is not perfectly clear, but there are a few interpretations: all intoxicants are banned (including laughing gas, alcohol, and various medications); plant-based intoxicants are banned (including alcohol, Opium, hookah, tea, and tobacco); or intoxicants made from grapes or dates are banned (so vodka is fine).

I used to work at a hookah bar, and was always surprised that Muslims generally believe tea is fine (caffeine is an intoxicant), frequently believe hookah is fine (nicotine is definitely an intoxicant), and generally believe alcohol made from other sources is not okay. This seems like picking and choosing to me, but even the Muslims I know who drink tend to fall into this category and just feel guilty about it

Unfortunately, I am not delicate enough to seriously discuss this without offending people, so I don’t know why. I assume cultural norms outweigh the actual scripture (which happens with most religions and which I don’t think is necessarily a bad thing, but I’m generally in favor of harmless cultural norms and non religious).

The one that seems to me like the biggest deviation, to actually answer the question, is when pro-life christians are for the death penalty or hawkish about wars.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A couple of my friends eat bacon, have a Christmas tree, etc. and say they're Jew-ISH lol.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

There's an inside joke about Iran that after the Shah was deposed, the only thing that changed was all the illicit activity happened inside instead of outside.

Its pretty believable considering you can find plenty of Muslim Iranians who openly drink and party, hence why they're actually the least likely to be seen amongst a group of Muslims.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Religious people supporting fascists particularly American “Christians” supporting Trump

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I knew a guy like that until recently kicking him out of my D&D group. There was always an undercurrent of moral superiority to the rest of us, which we tolerated because it's somewhat of a geeky trait, but declaring himself as pro-Trump was the last straw. I don't have to extend my hospitality to that.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm surprised Trump didn't remove all the words in red from his Bible.
But then again he's never read it and neither have the people who bought his Bible.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait, which words are in red? I don't think I've seen that before.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Words directly spoken by Jesus are in red, most of the things Jesus said would be considered radically socialist by today's "Christians"

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not every bible that's like that, but there are plenty of bibles that give you the option to have all Jesus spoken text appear in red, as a way to focus you on his "words".

If only they'd actually understand the words, then that'd be something.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

It's not their fault; the conservative posts of Jesus's message were edited out, like after the death of John the Baptist when Jesus turned a few fish and loaves of bread into food for thousands of means-tested citizens, excluding those who, through the work of the devil, had fallen into medical debt.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have bought and read a Bible as have my parents who actually believe the thing.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant those who bought his "Patriot Bible" specifically

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Christians" being borderline Racist/Discriminatory. Seen that both in classmates (a creationist) and in politics.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 6 days ago

There's some biblical precedent for that in the parable of the good Samaritan.

It's almost like religious brand doesn't really matter ethically.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago

Not even borderline, completely over the line.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Had a room-mate I described as a "lapsed Muslim". He took things like Ramadan VERY seriously, but then he'd drink like a fish the rest of the year.

Kind of like a Christian who shows up at church for Christmas and Easter, but blows it off the rest of the year.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A classmate of mine was a practicing Muslim. He claimed drinking hard liquor was fine cause the Quran only forbids wine and beer.
And when he did drink beer, he only did so in the basement, so Allah doesn't see it.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's as bad as the poop hole loophole.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck me in the ass cause I love Jesus!

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

The good Lord would want it that waaaay! 🎶

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

The excuses are even worse when people just do it regardless in turkey

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like every american evangelical who supports deportation or honestly the American empire in general. There is no way these people have read and understood like anything from the bible. Actually nuts how contradictory they are.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Part of it is definitely also that most people in the US don’t fully understand how the American empire works, nor do they want to. We’ve been committing a genocide against Latin Americans on our soil for at least a decade (holding them in prison without the right of habeas corpus because of suspicion of illegal immigration [not always proven], separating children from parents, and sterilizing women without informing them/obtaining their consent), and fucking their governments up abroad since at least teddy Roosevelt. Add Guantanamo Bay and our behavior in Africa and Central Asia (predatory loans and stipulated aid, mostly) and the Middle East, and we’re straight up ruining the world.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most Catholics see their religion as a buffet. They choose the things they like and ignore everything else.

[–] joshthewaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I've heard cafeteria christian for this. It really seems to apply to most religious people. They do what they want and pick and chose what doctrine works for how they actually want to live, then rationalize why that is OK. Some of that 'logic' is wild...

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Met someone who - in the course of a discussion - admitted that they were adamant in their belief that God existed and all the stuff in the Bible had actually happened, but also adamantly refused to observe any religious commandments or pray, because he was "angry at God" over the state of the world.

I wasn't quite sure if I felt sorry for his dealing with that kind of anger, or mild respect for his willingness to fully believe in God and yet raise a giant middle finger in His direction. Man had a mission, I guess.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

I don't believe that there is a God.

But if there is, I sure do have a laundry list of questions for that mfer that I'll surely be asking as I'm escorted out of the pearly gates and downstairs.

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

there's this 10 or more commandments this one religion has. yeah, the followers cherry-pick their fave.

there's prolly something like a list of capital sins too. yep. pure theater and master showmanship to these guys.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My Muslim classmate ate pork during Ramadan. He just didn't gave a shit lol. He got someone to buy it for him like a drug deal.

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol, did he at least wait for evening before eating?

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah, it was during lunch lol

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

If you're gonna break the rules, go all in!

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago

No idea how to rate different things.

Lots of sex before marriage. Sometimes it was okay because "they weren't going to marry them, do it isn't premarital."

Lots of accumulation of weath and doing only negative to poor people.

Lots of "throwing the first stone."

Publicly displaying religion from religions that specifically say not to do that.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I'm out here everyday not sacrificing people and everyday the world gets a little worse.

The Earth and the Sun are hungry.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 week ago

I knew a Jewish guy that loved bacon and pork chops in high school.

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