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I've been dual-booting Linux and Windows for a while, with Windows as the fall-back option in case I wanted to use Office for something. Now that they tried to trick me into paying a subscription for their AI slop machine, I'm finally, fully out. It was a pain to actually track down and back-up the stuff that was held for ransom in OneDrive, but now it is done.

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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I recently moved my digital life away from google and microsoft. I previously had the following subscriptions:

  • ExpressVPN
  • Onedrive
  • Bitwarden
  • Office 365

And I had a gmail account, which I often used for SSO. I realized that, the total monthly cost of these subscriptions together was more expensive than a single Protonmail *family * subscription, so I cancelled them all, got the family subscription, and now my wife and her sister all have protonmail accounts as well as storage, a password manager, and VPN access. In the process of moving my logins to my protonmail account, so that I don't have to keep my ancient Facebook account around for signing into things like spotify anymore. Coupled this with moving to the federated internet from reddit and instagram

I also dropped office for libreoffice. MS Office provides dubious value over the free competition, especially with a SAAS model.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bitwarden

Do you mean Bitdefender (the antivirus)? Bitwarden is free.

Before anyone well ackhuallys me yes, there is a very cheap $0.80/mo plan if you want an authenticator.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I had a bitwarden premium family plan

[–] Mindwolf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I was thinking to myself that I need to cancel mine. Then yesterday I got charged $127 for the yearly renewal.

I thought I was SOL but you can cancel and get most of the money back. So it's not too late to cancel and rid yourself of it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Same, Microsoft is about to force my laptop to update and I am about to own zero devices that run Windows.

There is no coming back either, which is what makes the schadenfeude of Microsoft (the dog) really actually catching the car this time so funny and satisfying.

I think it is going to make heads spin how fast the idea that Windows has unassailable hegemony in the desktop space becomes an antiquated idea. There is an asteroid in the sky, and the time of dinosaurs is over.

All the alarm bells should be going off at Microsoft hq and I know they probably feel like they are sitting pretty and feel nice and future proofed in their business plan, it is amazing and makes my heart sing.

Sorry not sorry you law breaking, monopoly chasing, morally bankrupt losers. You might be richer than I ever will be, but lets be honest, that is because I have standards about what I am willing to do for money.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They dgaf about us. Their Enterprise clients are their cash cows. But we are rid of their fleas nonetheless

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know that is how they see it but the generational wave they have been coasting on was the fact that computer nerdy kids would learn the ins and outs of Windows software long before even entering the workplace.

Microsoft has been taking advantage of the fact that kids like me would be so excited to learn computers that they would learn the basics of just poking around the desktop before they could read.

Nowadays that is gone, there is no playful connection and the sea of change will butterfly-effect into the future and cause a million symptoms of an issue we all know Microsoft will never actually value or address.

Microsoft has been functioning this entire time with a special unspoken in with nerdy kids who grow up to build important and valuable computer tools. Microsoft has steamrolled that, and on the scale of 10+ years I am not sure there will be anything Microsoft can actually do to mitigate the strategic defeat that is going to cause even if they are able to be honest and lucid about it at that late date.

More and more computer nerdy kids are going to learn the shit out of Linux because it is where they game and it feels welcoming to them (i.e. it doesn't feel like sneaking into a suffocatingly boring office full of identical cubicles that gives periodic blaring notifications on a gambling casino nobody your parents know can afford called the Stock Market).

I can't understate how much this will lead to Microsoft completely losing the plot because no one could ever suggest this as a danger in a Microsoft boardroom and be taken as seriously as they should.

gets popcorn I for one am going to enjoy the show

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Really looking forward to see steamos on a workstation 😁❤️

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Going to dump it when the wife's done with school. I was only keeping it for that and one game. So sick of subscriptions and the product isn't even good except for Excel.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, you have to use the heck out Excel to get into features that aren't in free projects like Libreoffice or OnlyOffice as well.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

And once you are using those you are probably better off using sqlite or even running a full SQL server.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

True. They’ve come a long way.

[–] Zenlix@lemm.ee 105 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I feel like Windows tries with every change to push it's users to Linux.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They got me, installed Mint a couple of weeks ago

I purged the Windows partition yesterday, fellt like pouring bleach on a stain...

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[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Secret good guy MS - get everyone onto Linux and tank their stock price 😂

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have to wonder if anyone at Microsoft is paying attention. It’s like New Coke in the 80s. They quickly realized they fucked up and rebranded the original as Classic Coke. I’m wondering if there will be a Windows Classic coming out soon with no AI, no subscription, no forced cloud dependency bullshit. lol probably not but whatever.

Keeping with the soft drink analogy, I think Pepsi tried something similar in the 90s with Crystal Pepsi, which also failed miserably.

If “lime must go up” always, then they need to come up with a better way than product enshitification.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

New Coke was different in 2 important ways.

  1. It was actually a way to hide the flavor change in the switch to Corn Syrup instead of Sugar, and never intended to be permanent.

  2. Pepsi existed

There's no real commercial competition for Microsoft. Linux is great, but there's nobody for a business to call when shit fucks up. And Apple's walled garden and high prices make it terrible for enterprise.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The bill I paid for Suse support contact at an old company I worked for begs to differ. The problem is home or smb are a rounding error for MS. They already got your money from hp or Dell etc. When you bought your computer. Making you the product with the ad and the ai bullshit to swallow your data to train their models is all icing on the cake.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago
  1. People stopped consuming New Coke

As long as people do nothing other than complain and continue to use the product they have no reason to change.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's enterprise support for several Linux distributions like
https://www.suse.com/services/premium/ (and SEL is a thing) or
https://ubuntu.com/support
Whether those distros meet the demands is a different animal.

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[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

I can finally say that I'm making the move to Linux now, as I'm dual booting Fedora. I plan to try to do my regular browsing and activity on Fedora, while keeping my school work and what little gaming I do (laptop user) on Windows. Hell, once I get confident enough in my Linux skills, I'll probably move the school stuff over to Fedora too.

I'm doing it mostly cause I've read the privacy horror stories, but also because I just hated Windows 11. Like there's nothing about it that is worth staying for... The excessive resource use, random settings being changed that you have to dig to find, the shitty Co-Pilot ads, and the fact I won't be able to use office once I graduate... Yeah no.

Good thing is I'm a cyber student, so guess I'm just getting a head start for a easier grade in my future Linux class lol.

[–] wanted_paprika@kbin.earth 55 points 2 days ago (7 children)

At least they don't make you pay for cancelling like Adobe does

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What stopped me initially from paying Adobe was the fact that they force you to use their Cloud app which served no purpose to me. A crack doesn't come with Cloud or at least a disabled one... Now that I know you have to pay to cancel, I'm pretty happy that Adobe stuff is easy to crack.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Cracked software still enables their dominance over the market.

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[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (30 children)

You should try OnlyOffice. It is very similar to MS Office and fully compatible with Microsoft formats. It has fully replaced MS Office for me for all office work. Also it can be easely integrated with your private NextCloud. You can install it from Flathub.

Edit: it also lets you edit and convert pdfs like Adobe Acrobat Pro

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[–] festus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Just going to mention that if you're okay with non-FOSS office software, I really like Softmaker's suite (their buy-once non-subscription version).

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Have you tried running Office in a bottle?

[–] Harrk@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Cancelled mine too. Don’t particularly care about the AI. But I don’t need it and trying to justify increasing the price for it didn’t really work on me.

I’ve also gone all-in on Linux now. While I have a Mac, my gaming PC was left on Windows. Now it’s running Linux Mint and while gaming on Linux has a bit further to go, it’s night and day compared to 10 years ago. This time I feel like I can actually stick with it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welcome! Been like a year and a half for me, and I can't even imagine ever going back to Windows. Just using it for work is already too much.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can feel the bloat when I use it now. Like you need to get from point a to b in a hallway. It's just you...and windows inflatable boat they fully inflated in the hallway between a and b. And you have to squeeze through to go to point b.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, Linux feels like what using a personal computer was always supposed to be.

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

Just cancelled my 365 the other day too. Been on Linux for half a year now and forgot I had it until the news of the copilot price increase came out and reminded me. I was happy I could cancel and be refunded the remainder of the term and get some money back in my pocket!

[–] killabeezio@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

The same thing happened with me. This was probably going to be my last year anyway, but i noped out real quick after the increase. Only reason I still had it was because I had some stuff in OneDrive that I was slowly backing up elsewhere. That just gave me the motivation to take care of it finally.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Bro I use windows for mostly gaming and it forced me to update to 24h2 which broke most games.

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