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Hundreds of subreddits are debating banning links to X.com (formerly Twitter) following Elon Musk’s Nazi salute at a Trump rally.

Dozens of subreddit moderators have already implemented bans, while others are holding votes among their communities.

The bans span political, regional, and topical subreddits, including r/NewJersey, r/londonOntario, and r/christianity, with some highlighting Musk’s gesture alongside neo-Nazi imagery.

This move reflects growing backlash against Musk and his platform over perceived alignment with extremist symbolism.

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

I've banned new Teslas from going before me at stop signs, passing me on the freeway, and not being cut off by me within inches in the left lane at any opportunity I can take.

[–] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Boycotting Twitter is a good idea for many reasons. However this kind of blanket link ban will lead to more informational segregation quickly. This has already happened in many ways since the beginning of the war on Ukraine. Linking to Telegram or any Russian website is no longer allowed in many forums, e. g. Reddit. That has made finding original sources and verifying information much more difficult.

Take links to videos for example. Reddit is full of videos copied from YouTube, Telegram, TikTok, etc. without attributing the original source. The World Wide Web was supposed to link information together into a network, where you can follow up on origins snd details. Nowadays it has turned into a series of copy & paste silos, enabling the most extreme echo chambers.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, but on the other hand...

Fuck Nazi's

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

Can't argue with that.

[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

Start watching and listening to the source and not just rage bait headlines and memes.

[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I think segregation is the long term plan. People can't rise up so easily against oppressive regimes if there is no de facto soapbox or platform on which to do it.

Social media gives us all an opportunity to be heard and share information in ways that email, or instant messages can't.

The changes in attitudes towards social media websites, caused in this instance by Elon Musk are a great way for those in power to suppress another Arab Spring type event in the future.

The link between Twitter and U.S. politics is plain to see, and U.K. politics seems to be mingling with the same crowd.

Knowledge is power; Wikipedia is next on the hit list.

[–] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

I doubt there’s a plan behind this.

Social media wasn’t the primary driver behind the Arab spring. The economic issues were the trigger. People couldn’t afford to buy food. Lack of food will topple any government. Media control only gets one so far.

On the Internet the dominant websites can change quickly. Being banned from Twitter enabled Trump‘s Truth Social. Buying Twitter gave Elon Musk a giant soap box. However new soapboxes are constructed all the time and some succeed.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

First they banned in person socializing/communication, next will be internet communication/socializing

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

First they banned in person socializing/communication

They did?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Banned is a bit of hyperbole. But it's clear as day that most of the third places have evaporated over the years. You can blame some of it on economics, but there are prominent right wingers who have talked about changing the language so average Americans from different political systems aren't able to have a civil conversations anymore, and the need to shut down third places that serve as a melting pot for ideas.

When I was a child, I distinctly remember many occasions where family or friends would meet and discuss policy... not politicians, actual policy in a civil way. Now those discussions don't happen, try to talk to a Conservative and see how long you can talk about policy before they bring up Trump, Pelosi or some other figure head.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

eh, spez is probably going to step in and force them back to require Twitter or something. he wouldn't want to be pushed out of the oligarchy.

fuck spez in advance

[–] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 hours ago
[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And they'll eventually not do it considering they are still debating about it. Just do it.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Some have already banned, some are in the process of voting.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wish I could stop using WhatsApp but that's where all the people without phone plans are. I wish I could stop using Telegram but that's where all the drug dealers are. I wish Reddit would ban X links, but that's where all the sassy hot takes are.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You can of course, you're just chosing to support zuck, musk and durov because it's slightly inconvenient for you not to

Of those three, telegram isn't as bad though. They're insecure and share data with law enforcement etc, but they're not as active and enthusiastic collaborators with Trump

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My point is the network effect. That's where people are and I have no power to change that, so that is where I must sometimes be. If it was up to me, things would be wonderful and open source. But I sometimes have to deal with — ugh... humans.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

It is up to you though. I get that you can make the choice that supporting zuck and musk is an OK price to pay to not have to do a little more work or be the annoying person saying "I only have Signal" but it is very much your choice. You could choose differently, if your priorities were different

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

India alone is about 2 billion people who all use WhatsApp. I cannot change the world. I hear you and would love for us all to switch to federated or — at least — decentralized things, or whatever. I will advocate for it, but like banks and shit are using WhatsApp. It is legitimized here even more than MMS. I can't stop it. And yes, I have made the choice to communicate with humans rather than using Signal.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Some of us value our social connections more I guess? I still use WhatsApp and I have no control over those around me to use otherwise. As already stated it's the network effect. The vast majority of people do not care about Telegram or Signal.

[–] lenuup@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

I did that for a while. The thing that happened was that I got left out of stuff, because people didn't always think of informing me separately, when it was already discussed in the already existing groups. Sometimes they would inform me after all the planning was done what the plans were, sometimes I got a last minute info or no info at all. So the choice was between a significant loss in my social life and using the same service as everyone else in my social circles.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Paywalled link

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 175 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

Until spaz says that's a no go and forces them to allow them. Just don't use reddit

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Reddit's response to this will reveal where Reddit likely falls on the Spectrum of Evil. They're a privately-held company, so any possible protection money they may have paid to the Nazis won't be visible like Meta's and such until the FEC report is (likely never) released in 3 months.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't they recently go public? They're traded as RDDT on the New York Stock Exchange.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes, they went public last year. And despite all the gloating on lemmy about a drop in share price right after the ipo, it's up 500% since then.

Edit: 300%

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Can't say for sure, but knowing spez, Reddit Inc willl be bleep Trump's bleep harder than a Philippine bleep on a black Friday sale...

50 bucks say that within 6 months Reddit will have a policy that prohibits reddit subs from blocking twatter links.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

I would not take that bet lol, i guarantee they are tweaking over this and scared about how this effects shareholders, they should be more worried about all the sus nsfw stuff right next to ads for "wholesome" companies

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe they will leave oligarch owned social media next.

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[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 62 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the fact how bad user experience X is for unregistered users should be reason enough to ban links to X.

[–] estranho@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

The experience for unregistered users on Reddit is almost as bad as twitter, I don't think Reddit cares about that.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 57 points 20 hours ago

What a coincidence, I've been banning all links to reddit. This is working out great.

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 15 hours ago

I can't believe it's taken this long. I get disappointed when microblogmeme jpegs don't have 2 @ symbols in them.

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