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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but not Facebook and Twitter and other American ones. Right?

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

You're on the Fediverse. Most of the people here are already actively avoiding Facebook and Xitter. Unfortunately, getting the US, EU, etc. to ban American propaspyware companies is, uh, extremely unlikely. China, however, has banned them long ago, which is why I don't see why people think it's hypocritical of the US government to ban Chinese social media.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

But they claim that China banning the apps is authoritarian. The hypocrisy isnt in banning the app, it's in their claims about motivation to do so.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Fuck you. I'm going to RedNote. Purely out of spite. Because I'd rather dropship my DNA to the Communist Party of China HQ than give my data to Zucc or Elon.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You already are on lemmy...

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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 213 points 2 days ago (13 children)

The last panel applies to every other social media, just replace the spying country.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That last part is becoming less and less relevant .... someone is spying but it isn't for the benefit or under the control of a country. More and more, the spying is meant more for the purposes of commerce and finance, for money and control. For business interests which is what major governments mainly represent.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 152 points 2 days ago (11 children)
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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 110 points 2 days ago (41 children)
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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm not a fan of government banning stuff, but like... if they are gonna do it, ban Wechat too. My parent's be so deep in the Wechat propaganda, I wonder what they do without Wechat.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except they've banned 1 source for appeasement rather than enact a strong law or policy for long-term safety.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, only AMIERICAN companies can spy on our citizens and flood them with propaganda!

USA! USA! USA!

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

This is my problem with it.

Social media, the big ones that everyone uses, are a blight on society. They are worse than cancer and they need regulation and control.

Really, the bigger problem is the monetization of data, and the ever-deeper orificices that they try to dig into for said data.

But I digress.

At the same time, they are private industries running a public (ish) forum.

Historically, we'd expect the forum owners to be responsible about the content they are presenting, and ensure that it doesn't reflect poorly on them or their community.

In other words...you wouldn't see the grocer keeping hate speech up on his community board...but if you did, I'm sure a lot of people would choose a different grocer.

The social media giants are taking a page right out of the book of Mormon, and gotten itself so engrained into modern society that trying to separate yourself from it will, at some level, result in social exile. That's bad.

Now theres a company backed by an increasingly adversarial nation-state that is in charge of a shit ton of that data. That's bad.

There's a lot of bad. Ultimately, it's a highly nuanced issue.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

Blah blah blah "we built our own great firewall and painted it red white and blue, and even banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites which even China doesn't do. We're totally the good guys BTW."

Americans are so fucking stupid, oh my god.

@EDIT: So it turns out the RESTRICT Act, that I was thinking of, and which banned VPNs, was shot down. And the current and approved Tiktok ban law doesn't do that. So. My b. This one is on me. I stand by "Americans are so fucking stupid oh my god", though, because you're still cheering for loss of net liberty.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

as an American yeah, seeing this post is just depressing. like people are actively cheering a loss of internet freedom. the government doesn't care about bytedance or else capcut would have to go too. they care about controlling information, tiktok has been essential in issues like Palestine, even if I don't like the platform itself I can admit that.

[–] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the idea of the government banning entire websites (or really any information in general) is horrifying. The fact that so many people in America seem to be enthusiastic or at least indifferent to new forms of government censorship shows how far along we are to complete fascism. Information is meant to be free, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. The fact that’s we’re having these conversations is disgusting.

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[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, so prepare for battle between people who want to tell you that their empire is better.

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 76 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Those are valid criticisms, but can equally be applied to all of the rest of our main social media platforms.

I’m not seeing a big difference here between TikTok and YouTube except that one is not able to be influenced or backdoored by the US government and the other is.

In essence the optics here look an awful lot like the US simply doesn’t like other nations mining their citizens data that they want for themselves, and having foreign control of the type of news being fed by their algorithm.

Just remember that before Snowden dropped a dime on the NSA, similar suspicions sounded pretty wacky too

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not only on american citizens...

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