I think tiktok should be banned for its addictive algorithm. It is far worse than any other social media for that reason.
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Can someone explain to me how it's worse for a foreign government to have your information than your own government having that same information? Your own government is far more likely to actually be able to do something about you.
It probably won't make a difference for you, but if you worked in a government facility and they're spying on you, obtaining credentials, obtaining information on infrastructure in the energy sector, government facilities, etc., getting network credentials, getting floorplans, getting times where a changing of the guard occurs, etc. - any foreign entity can use that info to tear a country down from the inside and kick off a full scale war.
Local government isn't going to self-saborage with that information. Yeah, spying on the citizens is awful and we should avoid any apps/devices that do that too, but that's not as bad as war unless it gets so bad that it gets to a point of civil war which seems unlikely.
inb4 tankies claim "conspiracy":
China hacked US Telecom Infrastructure
China hacking US Treasury
Two recent events I was able to dig up fairly quickly. Wouldn't be surprised if there's more. Apparently they tapped Trump's phone too, but not sure how credible the article/source is.
That's true but it doesn't apply to the vast majority of people. People who work in the government should be more aware of these things and I believe the tiktok ban started as only on government devices which is a lot more reasonable than a blanket ban.
Not a foreign gov. China.
This is analogous to the diff between Ireland having nukes and Russia having nukes.
So can you answer the question now that we know it's China? Why is it worse that China has user info over the US?
Okay, what is China going to do about me calling their president winnie the pooh or bringing up tiananmen square or whatever?
Nothing right now
Or ever, unless you go there.
L take.
Imagine cheering that your government decided witch social media are you allowed to use.
This meme brought to you by some poor CIA agent
Well yeah, but it's the US government which hasn't ever done anything problematic before. I'm sure it's for everyone's best interest. /S
Which if that were true, still wouldn't matter.
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Imagine ~~using~~ ~~being unfathomably addicted to~~ trusting an app parented and developed in a country where you can't criticize your leaders.
As an adult, that's my choice to make, not the government.
Imagine trusting an app owned by billionaires that just paid off the government to remove their competition.
You're an idiot if you trust any social media platform at this point.
You do know that it's illegal to be a socialist and hold any kind of government job in the United States? Brother we are in that country right now. But let's keep hearing you bitch about China.
Haters will say it's fake: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
we are in that country right now
Links wiki article to anti-communist measures taken in 1954
Yes, but also note that it hasn't been recinded, and our current Supreme Court has a soft spot for digging up forgotten legislation.
Yeah. American apps are trash like that
There is sooooo much weird conspiracy shit in these comments. The government is banning TikTok becuase they collect too much data and the Chinese government could eaisly get access to all of it. The correct thing to do would be to regulate data collection but that would be problematic for Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple..etc etc... so instead they just ban TikTok. All this TikTok refusing to spread deep state US govt propaganda horse shit is a bit past nuts.
This is a pretty sane explanation.
I'm also at least partially convinced that it's motivated by our social media giants' interest to "think of the children" their competition away.
Seeing as the order was basically "Get bought by an American corpo or get banned." They either plunder the competitor's insane data collection, userbase, and profits, or kick them off their corner.
You can also see it as retribution.
"Get bought by a Chinese entity or get banned" is the default posture of the Chinese government. BMW China is Chinese. Samsung China is Chinese. Panasonic China is Chinese. GM China is Chinese. If TikTok US is forced to be American, it wouldn't be the most unfair thing this week.
You can't have your "we're better than them cos freedumb" cake and eat it too.
Well, let's set the bar at not having concentration camps or not going to jail or being made "dissappear" for criticizing the government. For now...
Aren't they a 49:51 split international company:Chinese version?
As long as the Chinese entity has control, it's fair game.
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Since this is the place for the most serious discussion:
If US lawmakers focused on protecting American's privacy with some sensible privacy laws coughGDPR equivalent cough, we could avoid pulling out the ban hammer to play whack-a-mole on these companies.
Companies would simply be punished by the law for being malicious or irresponsible with your data, forcing industries to take privacy seriously and make investments in protecting and not leaking it.
Yes, now they just need the incentive to act and the knowledge of how to operate electronic devices.
Oh yeah, I forgot the other social media apps don't collect data and spew propaganda. Oh wait... They do.
Yeah but only for the benevolent western ultra rich oligarchs, so it's gucci.
FTFY
edit : ooooh the wee St Petersburg trollies are tryin’ ta tryin’ ta ain’tcha!
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