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[–] hark@lemmy.world 44 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to me how it's worse for a foreign government to have your information than your own government having that same information? Your own government is far more likely to actually be able to do something about you.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Yup, much better to let a foreign evil government have your data than the local evil government that actually has control where you live.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

Foreign governments are supposed to buy information from American social media companies. Tik Tok cut out the middleman so they're getting banned.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

It probably won't make a difference for you, but if you worked in a government facility and they're spying on you, obtaining credentials, obtaining information on infrastructure in the energy sector, government facilities, etc., getting network credentials, getting floorplans, getting times where a changing of the guard occurs, etc. - any foreign entity can use that info to tear a country down from the inside and kick off a full scale war.

Local government isn't going to self-saborage with that information. Yeah, spying on the citizens is awful and we should avoid any apps/devices that do that too, but that's not as bad as war unless it gets so bad that it gets to a point of civil war which seems unlikely.

inb4 tankies claim "conspiracy":
China hacked US Telecom Infrastructure
China hacking US Treasury
Two recent events I was able to dig up fairly quickly. Wouldn't be surprised if there's more. Apparently they tapped Trump's phone too, but not sure how credible the article/source is.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

That's true but it doesn't apply to the vast majority of people. People who work in the government should be more aware of these things and I believe the tiktok ban started as only on government devices which is a lot more reasonable than a blanket ban.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Not a foreign gov. China.

This is analogous to the diff between Ireland having nukes and Russia having nukes.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, what is China going to do about me calling their president winnie the pooh or bringing up tiananmen square or whatever?

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Or ever, unless you go there.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

..and completely avoid any and all Chinese products. Good thing their global influence isn't increasing constantly.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

Please outline how your personal political opinions about china are going to affect the fact that you have a Chinese toaster. I'll wait.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 7 points 20 hours ago

So can you answer the question now that we know it's China? Why is it worse that China has user info over the US?