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submitted 8 months ago by Wofls@feddit.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

I know it's called plasma, and I don't know if it's actually plasmas fault, don't judge me, it's for the meme

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[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 84 points 8 months ago
[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some people have KDE problems because they use Nvidia. I have KDE problems because I switched from Nvidia to amd but there's no way to uninstall Nvidia drivers in arch without a os reinstall and I'm too lazy for that (games still work, but many of my KDE bugs are probably caused by Nvidia drivers still being present). We are not the same.

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

You literally just have to uninstall the Nvidia packages

[-] Discover5164@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

pacman -Rs nvidia nvidia-tools

i kinda did the same today, but my machine was headless.

can you give me more info on why is impossible to uninstall Nvidia drivers?

[-] keefshape@lemmy.ca 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just switched from 2080 super to 7900xt last week on Endeavour. Install amdgpu, vulkan and mesa, reboot and install, uninstall nvidia stuff.

[-] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples)

[-] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily.

It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched.

And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 8 months ago

Wat

sudo pacman -Rnsc nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils

Unless you went to the NVIDIA website and ran the .bin, you're not supposed to do that on any distro unless you want problems.

Although it still shouldn't use an inactive driver.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer.

[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I didn't know that, but when I changed to AMD I didn't think twice before reinstall everything so I never reached this knowledge.

[-] Wofls@feddit.de 12 points 8 months ago
[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel your pain, I was there once my friend, just hold on plasma 6 is coming.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

just hold on plasma 6 is coming.

It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution.

[-] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us.

EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They don’t care about us.

Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux.

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[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 12 points 8 months ago

Or AMD, apparently. The bug report for this issue was explicitly renamed to say "Non Intel GPUs" - even though it seemed to be more likely(?) to happen to Nvidia users.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

What's the matter?
I've had laptop with Nvidia GPU, and the only thing was that for some reason the driver only worked with Linux 5.4. Other than that, it was fine.

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[-] Hubi@feddit.de 30 points 8 months ago

I just have "plasmashell --replace" mapped to meta + del.

[-] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago

I totally just stole that one

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago

No need to steal, I'm giving it away for free :)

[-] Wofls@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

Do you know the whats the difference by any chance? Would be interested

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 13 points 8 months ago

They are both doing the exact same thing. In your case it's just stopping and starting the service with separate commands instead of restarting with a single command.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

You know what's funny... I use Windows still for gaming and I have KDE connect installed to control stuff from my phone, and I have a "Refresh KDE connect" shortcut because the connection sometimes bugs out.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I've had to have such a shortcut for... 4+ years now.

It gets used too often

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

If you disable previews on hover, it seems to make the issue go away. At least it did for me. The bug report I've submitted months ago is still unsolved, but it's better than having to restart the compositor every time

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[-] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago

ah a fellow Waterfox user, flatpak or appimage?

[-] Wofls@feddit.de 13 points 8 months ago

AUR waterfox-bin, btw (¬‿¬") I'm almost glad to have made the mistake to install Arch because through AUR I don't have to get involved in these flatpack/snap/appimage wars xD (also because I have no clue what I am doing, but don't tell anyone)

[-] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 months ago

ahah lol that's fair, i maintain the flatpak so whenever i see someone with Waterfox on Linux I get curious. Love the AUR but I'm mostly on immutable distros so I don't get to use it qwq

[-] Wofls@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

I actually used the flatpak on my mint install a while ago, had no problems. So great work for a great browser I'd say xD thanks o7

[-] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

lol thanks, it's more of a side project atm as I'm juggling school and running IT for my dad's business but I'm glad to hear it worked for you!

[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is unrelated but what's the appeal toward immutable distros to you?

I don't mean this in a hostile way I'm genuinely curious to know. I usually consider the ability to change anything about Linux as quite a big selling point so these distros seem kinda counterproductive to me.

[-] IverCoder@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I usually consider the ability to change anything about Linux as quite a big selling point so these distros seem kinda counterproductive to me.

Immutable distros are actually easier to customize and tinker with than traditional distros, while being safer. Example: Universal Blue

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[-] callyral@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago

i mostly use kde apps like krita and kdenlive, although when i did use plasma i didn't have these issues. i use sway now because i wanted fully functional tiling (both polonium and bismuth were weird/buggy)

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I eventually want to return to GNU/Linux, but I just don't see a DE that has no drawbacks. The most reasonable choice I think is to just return to MATE, even though it looks dated and doesn't feel to innovate.

I really want to try KDE out but it looks like a cluster fuck for me.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Plasma is fine. This buggy reputation is from a decade ago.

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[-] Wofls@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can just recommend trying it out. If you're not stupid like me and use the wayland session with nvidia drivers it is anything but a clusterfuck

[-] Vitaly@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Try gnome, it's really good!

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[-] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Similar to an official cinnamon feature that automatically reloads cinnamon if it's memory usage becomes too high

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

I see someone else is also using waterfox

[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I've literally never need to do that.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Still don't understand the purpose of wayland besides cleaner code and easier updates for kernel level stuff.

X11 has been fairly updated with all the features people wanted and needed anyway. Just because no one uses all of its niche and antiquated plugins and extra stuff, doesn't mean its inherently an outdated program.

[-] citty@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure that recent X.Org server development has been driven by XWayland for the most part, the tags on repo certainly look that way

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