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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 80 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you've got time to ponder the futility of human existence you've got time to clean.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My ADHD brain can't focus well on cleaning unless I get that weird hyperfocus on it. Last time I got it it lasted a couple days and I got a Lotta things done. It was nice.

[–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please tell us how to get there 🙏

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip 13 points 11 months ago

Ok now think of a clean house + an opportunity to discover once cherished treasures

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, turn the important but not urgent task into an important and urgent task ! But it's a balancing act to keep it below the "overwhelming task feels impossible so let's just ignore it" threshold

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's one version of Camus' "Image sisyphus happy"

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Another interpretation is "Arbeit macht frei".

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bruuuder, wtf

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago
[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

But it works 🙈

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone is living this. You‘re not fucked because you live this but you have the brains to be aware of it.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And we live in a time and place where most of our base needs are easily met. Mind has far more time to ponder.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Compared to the middle ages, yes. But we‘re not better off than in the 60s I believe.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Middle class white people in America aren't, but pretty much the entire rest of the world is.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you give an example for that? I‘d like to understand what you refer to.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The quality of life worldwide has steadily been increasing since industrialization.

The quality of life of middle class white Americans has remained pretty much unchanged since the end of the second world war.

Im not going to get examples, but that's what my point was.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I‘m sorry but this is not correct. People used to live in one worker households and got by. The housing prices (only thing I could find) in the US has tripled since the sixties which is an increase of 7% pa.

GDPs are rising fast but wages are not keeping up. Here‘s a source for europe: https://www.ft.com/content/0a245c28-6cc3-11e9-80c7-60ee53e6681d

It’s not like poor white people are having ouwie now. The 1% are 10000%ing their income while the rest goes home empty.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're talking about incomes, I was talking about quality of life.

You don't need to convince me we're underpaid. You would need to convince me that our quality of life is worse than our parents was, though.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

As someone with a special interest in psychology I would say that being faced with inequality compared to our parents, we‘re definitely off to a bad start.

Our outlook on the future is fundamentally worse. The planet is fucked, most of us will never own a house, stuff is getting more and more expensive while we‘re being exploited at work. All while we‘re told the world is so much better than it was.

Those of us with the awareness to recognize that we are not seeing an improvwment are the ones that are worse off. I reckon it is another reason why social media and other distractions are rising and stress diseases are insanely high.

TL;DR: You can be factually better off while being constantly reminded how bad the situation really is and feel worse. We’re in a psychological crisis.

[–] tryitout@infosec.pub 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I remember this episode of Malcolm in the Middle

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

"Look! Blood on my knees!"

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Ahh you will have a clean room! Win win!

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doing something physical is so much healthier than doing nothing. It's not just an illusion, it can really help people to get back on track.

[–] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, usually if I get stuck in my head I'll just go work in the garden. Bit of sunshine and toil usually gets me unstuck.

[–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's the point? Now my room is clean... Why am I even still here?

I need to move out of this box of sardines but because of medical bills and house prices I can't.

What is the point?

Sorry... You guys caught me on a very bad day mentally and I can't even clean to get this shit out of my head.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you... go for a walk/run or something?

[–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Went for a 40 mile bike ride and a 10 mile walk. Cleaned my room, kissed my daughters good night. And yet I'm still here wondering wtf im doing

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 11 months ago

Sorry to hear that, my friend. Hang in there, ok? Don't do anything sudden.

I would help you if I could but I am mentally in a similar situation.

[–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

In my experience exhaustion makes the dread spiral worse

[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Some of those wikihow are hilarious 😂

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

!disneyvacation@lemmy.world

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

another trick is to making cleaning actually fun by challenging yourself.. try it blindfolded, or with one hand, etc.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Does it? I usually forget to clean after smoking weed and get distracted by other activities

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Both are the real speedy clean & squishy relaxed deal. Enough energy to clean a lot, but take your time at some spots, because stoned focus removes the sturdiest of stains.

[–] recarsion@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My "trick" is to put it off until I can't bear the mess anymore and then it actually feels like I'm getting something done and I'm doing it because I want to as opposed to it being a pointless chore