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Here's something that I think about that's weird. With onedrive, if you don't pay the subscription fee, they hold your files hostages until you do. That's called a business model, but when people hold their files hostage it's called ransomware. Weird how that works isn't it?
I mean not providing a service because you stopped paying the cost you agreed to for the service is quite different from forcibly destroying random people's data if they don't give you as much money as you demand
It's not like they remotely connect to your pc and wipe your hard drive if you don't pay up
Why is that weird? With self-storage companies, if you don't pay the rental fee, they hold your stored items until you do. That's calles a business model, but if someone breaks into my house and steals my items, that's called theft. It's not weird how that works because one involves signing a contract and you have say in the other.
I’ve never seen this be the case.
For the most part, the files still exist in the local filesystem unless one uses the “free up space” function to unload files to the cloud.
Where users have ended a subscription, they have become unable to add content to the cloud storage, which is to be expected. I’ve never been unable to download a file, it effectively goes into read-only mode.
I mean, if I was running a cloud provider I'd delete all your shit the instant you stopped paying me. So them providing the option for you to get your files by renewing your subscription is more than generous. Storage space costs money.
You'd just burn yourself doing that though.
So long as you still have the data there's a very strong probability the subscriber is going to renew in order to access their data.
Once you delete the data the subscriber is probably going to change to another provider that doesn't delete things.
Weird how consent works
Fuck dropbox. Dropbox uses your data for AI training.
They had some backlash so now it's a toggle depending on your account.
Cancelled them immediately because I originally was using Dropbox to store personal information like tax and backup passwords. And now I know they can/will fuck you over for profit.
& like probably every storage service the opt out toggle is an absolute lie
✨Nextcloud Gang✨
NGINX autoindex + Wget + SSH fuckery (a.k.a.: "Lazy turd solution")
Idea:
You can put files into selected directory for filesharing which will be used as root directory for NGINX. When you enable autoindex you'll get the classic directory listing you see on places like Linux ISO mirrors.
That will be the file source.
To download, you'll simply download from that autoindex page.
Uploading is, uuuhh, creative.
You have to also run NGINX server the same way on the upload side, either have them on same network or use reverse SSH forwarding, and then SSH into the machine you wish to upload to and download the files into it with Wget (or at least I use Wget) from the locally running server.
Example config I last used on my phone as the upload side:
daemon off;
events {}
http {
server {
listen 192.168.34.217:8080;
root /storage/emulated/0/LibreTorrent/;
location / {
autoindex on;
}
}
}
Yes, the indentation, I know.
I read all that then had the thought:
Rclone does all this with like 1 command line, doesn't it? Recently was looking into synching my seedbox with my home media server and every guide was "use rclone and a script that detects when a file is added/removed to trigger the synch"
Considering one drive is just a pretty* front end for SharePoint. No shock it sucks.
*Pretty being relative compared to the horrors of SharePoint
My workplace uses SharePoint and it makes me want to gouge my eyes out. Come to think of it, all the Microsoft Enterprise products have that effect on me.
This thing breaks several of my video games. I thought I had gotten rid of it fully - but it seems to keep trying to default to it despite OneDrive no longer existing on that PC anymore.
Things like these are why I insist in not having an email associated to windows.
I'm starting to get a bit worried, is the linux clan sick? Where are they? They should have shown up no, right?
w3m isn't working, give me a minute.
I am so goddamned tired of all the bullshit “value add” stuff that is really just ways to engineer a captive userbase.
There is a trend on Lemmy to hate on Windows, Microsoft etc. I get it, they deserve the flak. But I haven't had many issues with Onedrive in particular. Is it because Windows has it preinstalled and tried to get you to use it?
If it was turn on or off I'd be fine with it. But it's forced and even the default if you go to the backup app. All your local files are stored in a OneDrive folder with subfolders like desktop under OneDrive.
If it had a standard API so I could use my NAS instead of MS cloud it would be amazing.
The problem with onedrive is now when you visit your parents for tech support, all their important stuff is on the "hard drive called one drive", since Windows now just makes it look the same as a hard drive on your computer. And once that hard drive fills up, which will be pretty fast with default settings, then it starts asking them to pay money, or their important files will be lost... at their level of technical skill, that is basically the legal version of those scams that encrypt your files and then extort you to unencrypt them.
For those of us who know what is going on, it's only a mild inconvenience. Just gotta put less agressive back up settings on and remove anything from onedrive that isn't needed. But think about what it's like for all the people who would get themselves into that situation and don't have someone that could fix it for them. They either pay onedrive the extortion money, lose those files, or take the computer to someone to fix it for a cost. Why make those the default settings? Why not even pop up like a selection of default settings with a short description of what to expect from each selection. But it would cost more money and generate less, so no matter how user-friendly it would be, the only way it'll happen is under court order.
Edit: also for any of us that use windows professional, alot of these problems will seem foreign to us. Of course, all the predatory stuff is exclusive to windows home edition. That's the one where they are agreeing to have a bad time because it made the computer they bought in the store look cheaper than the one next to it.
My biggest frustration with OneDrive is in combination with Office (on my work PC). You browse to a local folder and save, but instead of saving it locally and syncing to the cloud, it saves to the cloud and downloads, and it is slow.
I get the hate for Windows, but I have to agree with you on OneDrive. I've been using it for years since they started giving you a terabyte of storage with an Office365 subscription, and it's never caused me a single issue. It just works.
Onedrive tries to take away access to your documents folder. The new one it creates is very difficult to use with a terminal
Care to elaborate on “take away access”?
By default, it simply gets remapped from C:/Users/Username/Documents to C:/Users/Username/OneDrive/Documents and remains accessible through the %USERPROFILE%/Documents environment variable.
Not exactly hard to create a symlink if you need it either.
It really, genuinely is.
I have to say, though, the increasingly desperate dark patterns Google is deploying to try to make me pay them for storage are getting up there these days.
The product itself is way better, but if I was going to pay to be subtly threatened with cyberpunk erasure I'm sure there are sexier options.
I'm fully going back to local storage/NAS now, even if it is significantly more expensive.
I work in marketing and have learned this the hard way: If you send news media orgs onedrive links to media content, they won't use it. The link rot sucks so hard and onedrive is so poorly designed, they simply won't use media from those links.
I just wish Dark Souls 3 had Steam cloud support. Like, what the fuck? It's the only one that doesn't.
The one (1) upside is that it's preinstalled on most windows versions, and since our local IT admins refuse to allow installing other cloud storage software (like a nextcloud instance provided by the government), it's the only one I can reliably use at work.