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I've been trying to find out more about this because the story doesn't make any sense:

"he approached the sleeping woman, and then lit her on fire with what was believed to be a lighter. She added the victim's clothes became fully engulfed in a matter of seconds."

Clothing shouldn't just be flammable like that without some kind of accelerant.

https://www.cpsc.gov/Regulations-Laws--Standards/Statutes/Flammable-Fabrics-Act

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The suspect being an immigrant is the main reason this will be a multi-day national story. It's a fucked up way to kill someone, but even with that in mind, there's no way they'd make a national story out of a homeless woman being murdered in NYC except to serve a broader agenda.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Well, there's also the burning person on a subway.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 25 points 7 hours ago

So we're doing terrorism charges for all homicides in NYC now right? Right?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Watch the police do as little as possible over this. She was the opposite of a CEO.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

In fairness, they did catch the guy pretty quickly.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 93 points 12 hours ago

Homeless people might use layers of all kinds of stuff to stay warm (think newspaper, etc as a common material), they also don't have the privilege of being able to wash their clothes very often. There could have been all sorts of things that compromise the flame retardancy of the clothing.

People don't typically expect to be set on fucking fire while they sleep, so it's not usually a risk to be concerned about.

The guy that did this is an absolute psycho

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 24 points 10 hours ago

No press briefing with the chief of investigators, NYPD?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

That is what she gets for not being a POS CEO.

[–] AriesAspect@lemmy.world 49 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So we don't know anything about this thug? Burning homeless people on the subway?!?! Republicans prolly prepping him to be a national celebrity

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

From Guatamala though, so expect the usual "alien" hate.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'd rather hate the lack of mental health and support systems available. If it was just a random act of violence, he's the suspect is just mentally unwell and you can't really stop them without structural changes. It's not hard to find articles and articles about homeless people attacking random people with bricks in NYC.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That plays into Trumps whole "they're sending us their criminals and emptying their asylums" bullshit though. :(

Agreed that mental health care should be a guarantee just like "health care" because, well, it is health care.

But that won't be the narrative from the "deport them all" crowd.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

Fuck this guy, idc where the fuck he's from. Wildly fucked up.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

I seem to remember a string of copycat attacks where lighter fluid or gas was sprayed inside a kiosk that contained a cashier or person taking tickets. Think there were several deaths.

Expect that an accelerant like gas or lighter fluid was used in this case. Doesn't take much.

Monstrous thing to do.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Aren't winter jackets very flammable?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Protip from a fire performer

Buy a boiled wool peacoat. You can put out a small fire with it. Thrift stores usually have em for like $20

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Thanks! Wool really is a great material.

I've recently been enlightened to the benefits of merino wool. Wish it was more affordable.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, I think they're legally required to be self-extinguishing.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Most jackets today are cheap garbage shipped from china.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Sigh. I dunno man, point is, fuck this human-arson shitbag.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago (14 children)

I don’t know anything about this but in my misspent youth kids would take the regulator off adjustable disposable butane lighters and you could light the lighter and then basically pour the butane out of the lighter.

Something like that could surely ignite clothing and appear to be “just” a lighter.

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