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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 5 points 22 hours ago

It’s like asking us to feel bad that Osama Bin Laden was killed. Or that Charles Manson died. Why are they trying to generate sympathy for a serial killer? Deciding on who does and doesn’t get health care makes you just as much a murderer as Mangione. So why should I care?

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Now is a good time for all Americans to learn about Juror Nullification

[–] Meeper@reddthat.com 3 points 22 hours ago

Knowing about Horror Nullification makes you ineligible to be on Jury Duty

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Everyone simply knows he is not guilty.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah, he's guilty, but I wouldn't convict him.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Don't know what you're talking about. They clearly have the wrong guy.

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Guilty of what? Caring too much?

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

liable* guilty is reserved for criminal cases and killing parasites isn't a crime.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago

It's never "so much sympathy" for a killer cop, or genocide, but one CEO is just a step too far.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

The media likes to downplay that the CEO had straight up killed people. Eye for an eye applies. It would be a gross miscarriage of justice to find Luigi guilty.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago
[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 102 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, so like when it goes the other way and the public decides someone is guilty long before they go to trial and prosecutors go after him anyway.

Big deal. The jury will decide one way or another and I will be very surprised that the highest charges will stick if they get normal people on the bench.

The fact that this guy had a manhunt out for him when people are murdered every day and nearly no resources are used at all to go after them is astounding. Just shows the law is there for the rich, not the rest of us.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There was another school shooting this week, i think that's the 80th this year and people don't seem to care. Why would anyone care about some parasite millionaire when innocent kids are gunned down everyday and that's just the way it is.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] nomous@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

80, 327 same thing; at the end of the day these kids aren't creating any jobs or producing any value for the share holders. So are they really even people?

[–] blaggle42@lemmy.today 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Wow, this is stunning data. People just lost their minds in the pandemic.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the jury working exactly they way it should

[–] vikingr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Right, not sure what they're complaining about.

They're just going to keep going through jury pools until they can find enough bootlickers, which seems to be the antithesis of the "jury of your peers" system.

His peers find his actions justifiable. The rich can get over it.

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[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 76 points 2 days ago

Juror 1: It wasn't him. I know it in my heart...because I've had congenital heart disease my whole life, so I'm acutely aware of how my heart is feeling at all times. Like when my insurance company raised my premiums, I felt that in my heart. I feel this verdict in my heart, too.

Juror 2: At first, I thought it was him, but then I didn't. Something about it made me change my mind. He just looks like a highly principled person. The media owes this man an apology.

Juror 3: This reminds me of the time I went to the ER with a severe migraine, and the insurance company denied payment for the visit because there was no proof that I had a migraine and said it could have been anxiety, which wasn't covered in my plan. Maybe this wasn't murder. Maybe this was assault. I guess we'll never know now.

Juror 4: The prosecution made a good case, but the defense made one very good point: the victim has a long history of gaslighting vulnerable people. It made it hard to trust them.

Juror 5: I think it was a cover up. Maybe the "victim" killed himself and wanted to make it look like a murder so his family would get the insurance money. They seemed to know a lot about insurance loopholes and tactics.

Juror 6: I feel for the victim, but I think that considering the charges, they need a second opinion...Oh, the law states that someone can't be tried for the same crime twice? If they think that is unjust, they could work with government to come up with a better system then. Though it is going to be a tough battle to repeal the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution since they will need approval from 38 states, but maybe they have the public's sympathy.

Juror 7: I'm glad this trial is over. I need to get to the home to take care of my wife with cancer. The insurance company keeps giving me trouble, and she's too weak to fight it.

Juror 8: Did you know that the defendant hadn't even met the victim once. Who targets a random stranger for no reason at all? The prosecution wasn't able to make a case defining the motive of the defendant.

Juror 9: In my experience, you have to be careful with insurance companies. You can never trust them. The prosecution was working for an insurance company, so it was hard to believe anything they presented.

Juror 10: As a family practice doctor, I have to deal with insurance companies that lie about denials all the time, so I can tell when they are lying, and I think they were lying in the trial.

Juror 11: NOT GUILTY. The defendant seemed to be defending others from death or serious bodily injury, which is legal according to New York Penal Law 35.15.

Juror 12: The defense made a good point. The victim had told his doctor that he smoked a cigarette once in college, and I heard that smoking cigarettes can lead to poor health. Maybe the victim would have survived if he hadn't smoked before. We have to consider that.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They will try Luigi until it sticks. It's critical to the powerful that they send the message they are beyond reproach.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Which is exactly why people like Luigi resort to the actions he took. It can never be undone no matter what they do to him afterwards.

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I’m sad I won’t get picked for the jury. I’d refuse to convict on all counts. If Trump gets no punishment for literally anything this dude should get no punishment for fighting back against an absolutely broken system. Honestly, I don’t view his actions to be something to cause a public backlash. The prosecution is what will cause the public backlash, imo.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

i love every bit of this

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (10 children)

There's a McDonald's worker able to be jury. Oh wait, he didn't get the reward money as his claim got denied for bullshit reasons, just like insurance... Never mind.

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