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[–] Whorehoarder@lemmynsfw.com 170 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Didn't millennials watch it growing up? Someone's not getting their generational terms right

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 40 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Hell, I was even old enough when it was airing to think it was overrated then.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s not offensive, it’s just not that funny.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

97% of Seinfeld's entertainment value is the bass line.

But if you make an observation and draw it out for a long time, that automatically makes it funny, right?

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 118 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Ummmm, the whole point of the show was that the people were horrible.

The show ended with them jailed after they made fun of a guy who was getting mugged.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 68 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The gang on It's Always Sunny is worse but they are obviously not people we're supposed to empathise with. It's quite a bit less obvious on Seinfeld.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

Always Sunny was taking the idea of Seinfeld and dialing it up to 11.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the distinction is that on Sunny the gang is “punished” for their shitty behavior, and on Seinfeld they basically never were. (I don’t include the season finale because that was just a cop-out to give the show an ending.)

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I might be overthinking it but feel like Seinfeld was more a show about normal people who sometimes do shitty things - just like real life. I can't think of anything truly horrible any of them did on the show, just a bunch of "social" wrongdoing. Telling a secret, sleeping at work, the perfect comeback, etc. It's famously a show about "nothing"

Then IASIP is about a bunch of assholes riling each other up to be horrible for their own benefit.

I think Seinfeld is the more "important" in the grand scheme of television for it's groundbreaking approach but in a vacuum, IAS is the better show.

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[–] OR3X@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that the whole fucking point of the show though? The main characters are terrible selfish assholes?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It's not really any different than the characters on It's Always Sunny.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I'd enjoy it so much more.

I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So... I never really got into the show.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

THANK YOU! I can't stand that guy. His voice kills me and I never found him funny. Nothing against him personally, he might be a great person, but I can't understand how people can stand the content he makes.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago (4 children)

~~Good~~ news! Seinfeld is a pedophile and supposedly kind of a sociopath. He's also tried to hop on the anti-woke train a couple of times in the past few years.

The man made a major contribution to western cultus as a whole, but man is he a bastard.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 days ago (5 children)

He was definitely the weakest actor of the 4, and had the poorest story lines.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

That right there is some clickbait. I'm millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah, not sure how old they think millennials are or when they thought Seinfeld aired

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the "I'm too offensive for young people" and "I've been cancelled" nonsense for a while now. He's just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn't get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

he unequivocally walked that back recently. said he was wrong to think that and it isn't a thing. he probably had a talk with his kid or something.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He probably had a long talk with his PR counselor and was advised that he stood to loose more then he would gain if he stuck to that.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now. Does this article writer think Millennial just means "kid"?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now.

PS. I'm not actually 40 but I'm getting there before I even realise it.

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[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It’s worded like we’re all still in our early 20s.

It’s just hot clickbait garbage for boomers

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm an Xer and I didn't like Seinfeld, but that's mostly because I don't like embarrassment comedy. It's the same reason I don't like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don't begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it's just not my vibe.

[–] blipcast@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

I'm not saying you have to like Seinfeld or anything, but I wouldn't consider it embarrassment comedy. It's more about the gang being a bunch of sociopaths, like an early version of IASIP.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are we talking about "Seinfeld", the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or "Seinfeld", the horrible human being?

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[–] BedInspector@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Not saying it's not funny, but there is definitely stuff in the show that wouldn't fly today. For example there is an episode where George didn't know black people ate salad.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't like Seinfeld, but isn't George supposed to be an utter dunce?

Like, as a Zoomer, people not being able to tell the difference between portraying bigotry and endorsing it IS an actual problem I see.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I am reminded of Sokka's character in the new version of the Avatar (show) compared to the original animated one. In the original animated one, he portrays sexism and very much feels the consequences of it, and grows as a character when overcoming it (through warranted humiliation). The new show never included any of this and so his character lacks all of this. It's like the writers think they're endorsing his sexism if they ever included such a thing.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] stinerman@midwest.social 46 points 5 days ago (6 children)

It's weird that "this group of people don't like that show that you like" is supposed to create some sort of negative reaction. My enjoyment of a thing does not depend on a certain number of other people liking it.

I must be numb to "outrage is the best way to engage people" that everyone uses these days.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For the first time? We grew up with this show.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ya know how growing up, our parents called every system a "Nintendo", even if it was clearly a Playstation or a Sega Genesis?

Yeah that's what boomers do with age groups. Anyone younger than them is a "Millenial Zoomer on Youtube's TikTok app"

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[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We were the ones watching it when it was first airing. I don't think there was anyone in my highschool that wasn't watching it.

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[–] wolfeh@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

This whole "young people find everything offensive" narrative is ridiculous, and always has been. It's very beneficial to those who want to shift the Overton window, though.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 25 points 5 days ago

Would you leave us the fuck alone, we're old now!

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If they(we) think Seinfeld is offensive, what do they think of IASIP?

[–] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, IASIP is also actually funny, which helps.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (5 children)

What‽ I grew up on it and I'm as young as we get. No it's his current stand up that's in poor taste and one night of Kramer's stand-up that's actually offensive

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Almost every time an article like this is posted, the contents are the result of one or two comments out of thousands, or a Reddit post that didn't gain much traction outside of "eh, sure, I guess?"

Tangentially related, IMO there should be an "author review" site, where if someone posts a stupid article like this, it is referenced in a database against their name and their frame of reference for the content is called out. Rank "journalists" against this, and eventually the people starting out in the industry posting AI-generated shite that doesn't hold up will start to err on the side of caution.

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I did a re-watch in the last couple years. Most of it was fine, even if it would not be a big hit these days. Jerry dates the Asian women? Yea that would get called out most likely. Elaine dates a guy she thinks is black? Pretty sure that still flies. Elaine is scarred she's dating a murderer? Probs a special two part episode these days. Shocks me how ahead of the curve they were with the Elaine gets gaped episode.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it's the laugh track that's offensive.

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