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[–] Steve@communick.news 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I genuinely don't understand the logic behind stopping these.
Can anyone help me make sense of it?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same thing with everything he does. Just for the cruelty

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

No. That's too easy and dismissive. It doesn't even realy make sense.
Revenge maybe. But I doubt it.
There's some logical reasoning here. Something that makes sense, even if the goal it's self is senseless.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A friend‘s company will get the contract instead? Of course the vehicles would have ICEs, making his oil company friends happy? The cruelty would just be a bonus

[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Something like that. But which friend? Which company?

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe Musk wants to make them instead?

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 week ago

That would make sense.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Try to get him to settle for hybrid, install small ICE into vehicle, show functionality upon rollout, retune software later to not actually use ICE. Lol

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are you new? Since when does he make sense?

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It all makes sense when you see him as a child. An insecure narcissist, who thinks the world exists for his benefit. So how does this fit into that?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes children break things just to break things

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even when they do, they're exploring and discovering their ability to effect the world, or how things work. It's not for no reason.

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, and that's where the child analogy fails. He's not actually a child. He's not learning and exploring the world. Learning is likely one of the things Trump hates the most, because it would imply he doesn't already know the answer.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's always a reason, even if it's childish. I'm guessing someone in the petro industry whined in his ear. Or someone whined that he should hate the USPS. Who knows.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Did everyone just collectively forget about his efforts to crush USPS? DeJoy? All of it?

Mail-in voting is still a danger to him, and privatising the mail system has been a goal for conservatives for a long time now.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Oil interests gave $75 million to Trump's campaign. That's the "logic".

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Friend.. Are you still trying to make sense of any of this? You poor poor soul. I want to give you a hug.

[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 1 week ago

I appreciate that. Thank you

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 13 points 1 week ago

It pisses off liberals. Literally the only thing that matters to him.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it wasn’t his plan. Literally if anyone else does it it is bad. Trump is the most important and his ideas are the best

If only he could make them run on whale oil and pay twice as much they would be so much better

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the case with literally everything in the government pre 2016.
Why roll back this thing, and a few others? What's the line separating them from everything else?

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Well nothing…

He’s wanted to kill the ACA because Obama. But hasn’t had a plan in 8 years?

Air Force One, had be be redone after he cancelled Obama’s planned version. So his big brain re did it for a higher price and now is delayed until after 2028 ; so he now won’t get to fly it.

I’ve not talked to him about it, but I’m guessing that he 1, hates electric cars and 2, hates anything not trump.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Elon has his arm up Trump's ass.

Own the libs. That's the whole thing.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These workers would finally be getting air conditioning for the first time in US Postal history, just in time for the fucking earth to melt, and this heartless asshole wants to take that away and go back to the stone ages with trucks that get 9MPG. Fuck Trump!

I hope every USPS worker goes on strike!

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s illegal for USPS employees to go on strike :^)

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was also illegal in 1970 when this strike took place. So, it could still happen.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And people are apparently getting more radical by the day. The more the institutions are turned into a clown show, the less people respect them and the harder they will have to crack down, which, contrary to what authoritarians want to be true, further destroys their legitimacy.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is the media reporting on this as if they aren't 99% of the reason this shit is happening?

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because "the media" isn't a single entity that is fully aligned on everything.

Sure, there's plenty of media outlets that supported trump, but there's also many that didn't.

And I certainly doubt Quitting Carbon Media were pushing for a Trump win.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pushing for trump, and softballing his criminality just in case he wins are not too far from each other. Find me one major outlet that didn't do one of those, and find me more than 2 less common outlets that did as well.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fuck you, name me 27 of each that did. What am I, your PA?

I'll give you one because that's all that's needed to satisfy the constraint "not all".

  • Byline Times, which published and article on 4th Nov ‘I Will Lose My Job for Speaking Out About the Mayhem a Donald Trump US Presidential Election Victory Will Cause – But I Have To’

And regardless of that, even if every last one of them got down on their knees and gave him a blowjob, that still doesn't mean that they shouldn't be critical of him.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You've missed the point. I do think it would be easier to find 27 that did than it would to find another that didn't. And that's the point. If we're also going to talk about the amount of viewers for each, it gets even easier than that.

There's no reason to lash out and be a dickhead, by the way. This could have been a conversation.

Also, you put "not all" in quotes as if you're not responding to my comment that clearly says 99%. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least be accurate.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

Hey those shareholders and executives ain't gonna exploit themselves.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

oh this means war. those trucks look fucking awesome

They are! And they are much easier and safer and healthier for our postal delivery folks.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

They look so incredibly practical. It's so function-driven, I love it.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago

He’s a one-trick pony, and that trick is showing contempt. More to come soon!

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

This makes me legitimately, very angry!

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Now that we're in a wrestle mania timeline... how long before Trump turns on Musk over Tesla EVs, kicks him in the gut and gives him a stone-cold stunner?

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago

"Cruel fascist simp and the people stuck up his ass continues to be cruel fascist simp"

Shocking.