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Conservative opinions on subminimum wage are mixed, but some advocates are optimistic that the new administration will continue working to phase it out.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I say this everytime it comes up:

For someone on disability benefits, they can lose all their benefits by earning a very very small amount of money on a single paycheck.

The exception to minimum wage is so the ones who want to work, can work without losing benefits.

So before we raise their wage, we have to fix how/when the benefits are effected by income.

Personally the fairest way is after something like an extra couple hundred a month, every dollar earned just reduces benefits by a dollar. And if all the benefits are cancelled out, keep them in the system instead of yanking it on the first paycheck. Give them 6-12 months to show they can sustain, and keep a safety net for when things change

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or just give them basic income and don't reduce benefits. Consumers with money to spend is good for the economy, it's good for jobs, it's good for wages.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean...

Yeah?

We should also have peace on Earth and good will to all.

But that's outside the scope of the current discussion.

Which is that while on the surface getting rid of the exception is a good thing, if you know the situation it's the opposite. Which is why when I see it brought up I clarify.

If the topic was UBI, I'd be saying the same stuff you are.

Hell, I'm a disabled vet. I have free healthcare and my monthly payment is pretty much UBI, since it's military I can earn as much as I can from employment without worry. I know for a fact how little it takes to drastically improve standard of living and I want everyone to have what I do now.

That's just outside the scope of the current discussion

Personally the fairest way is after something like an extra couple hundred a month, every dollar earned just reduces benefits by a dollar

I'd agree with you, but being disabled is at least twice as expensive as not and those expenses don't go away just because you earned the dollar yourself.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

The articke suggests workers could get a better deal under Trump. That's just insane to even imagine.

Of course they wonpt.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never forget that Trump publicly mocked a reporter with a disability.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

have had similar conversations with conservatives, so you can't pretend this isn't a widespread view in the states.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago

It can always get worse...

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That's pretty optimistic.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it'll probably decrease

I could totally see him bringing back the hay penny as a us currency.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If the government mandates they be paid more, they simply won't have jobs at all. Businesses aren't going to choose someone with Down's for the same cost as someone without.