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    [–] fluxion@lemmy.world 133 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Oh to be a young lad experiencing linux for the first time again

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 32 points 1 month ago

    For higher throughput in middle age, I recommend Edge-ing every so often, and then going back to a real browser.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    Not knowing how anything works, being scared by errors that you don't know how to get around or deal with, not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly, wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

    naah thanks mate, hard pass.

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Not knowing how anything works

    I mean, that's how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works

    Being scared by errors that you don't know how to get around or deal with

    Isn't that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don't know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever

    Not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly

    See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can't imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´

    Wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

    Wasn't that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that's nothing short of incredible

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 weeks ago

    My brother in penguin computers, that wasn't a negative post. I just mentioned all the things to point out that switching OS can be really hard and the first time getting to Linux ain't all sunshine and rainbows. 😉

    Really just needs one problem with some necessity you can't fix to screw up the whole experience. Doesn't even have to be Linux' fault; just thinking about god damn printers…

    [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

    Tossing Gentoo onto an old Pentium III box, typing emerge world and coming back four hours later to see if it's done was awesome.

    And no, it wasn't done compiling KDE yet.

    But I definitely wouldn't want to experiment with Linux on my only PC with no way to look things up if I break networking (or the whole system). Thankfully, this is no longer an issue in the age of smartphones.

    [–] NOPper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I feel like this supporting Windows servers and navigating Win 11/12 clients at work these days.

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

    Yes, but Windows is normal and therefore all of its myriad problems are just part-and-parcel with using a computer and can be ignored. Linux is not normal, though, so the slightest roadbump is an instant deal-breaker.

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    [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

    I'm doing that rn. Not the first time as I've used it before, but this time as a daily driver.

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    PTSD of wifi and gpu drivers:

    dog war flashback meme

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

    Am enjoying it more than ever almost 20 years in.

    [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 101 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Linux exists, so I keep coming

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    [–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The owner of gamingonlinux? The same guy was a mod on the !linux_gaming@lemmy.ml community until they were caught abusing their moderator powers? Who then deleted their account and complained on mastodon that it's stupid design that mod logs are public? That one? [Screenshot]

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

    it doesn't matter. In the end of the day they came

    [–] NotSoMewwo@pawb.social 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    For full context: The mod abuse was a incident between sirsquid (Liam/GamingOnLinux) and 'go $fsck yourself' (the person that comments this on every linking to GamingOnLinux.com). The alleged mod abuse is Liam deleting a post by 'go $fsck yourself' criticizing the title on one of his articles. Liam later stepped down as moderator.

    Was Liam being a childish? Yeah. Is there a reason why 'go $fsck yourself' is being vague about what the mod abuse actually was and to what extent? Probably.

    Incident was at 2024 May 22 Mod Log: https://lemmy.ml/modlog/15063 Screenshot Incident Thread: https://lemmy.ml/post/15894308

    For more context, after Liam stepped down: https://lemmy.ml/post/17376889/11932442

    [–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Very succinct and includes 99% of the situation. Thanks, and well done.

    Only things I would add would be: Being a moderator on lemmy and not knowing that modlogs are public is baffling. That alone really outlines the fact he was unqualified for the role.

    And that it seems pretty obvious the comments were only deleted by him to hide his own. He had already shown an inability to be measured and collected, as well as a poor understanding of the platform from a moderation perspective. Then, his clear disregard for the only rule for the community by lashing out at something that could have been more easily dismissed entirely. He should have just deleted the comment without a response. My mildly stupid comment just did not deserve that kind of reaction.

    It all serves as solid evidence that he was willing to abuse his mod role for something so minor, and a person like that wouldn't stop there.

    The real cherry on top is how pathetic it is to go to mastodon to complain about the public mod logs on lemmy.

    [–] NotSoMewwo@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    It was a single small incident out of (assuming) months of moderation and he later stepped down.

    I am asking you to have some empathy, your comments make the situation look like he was being a master manipulator when all he had was an ego problem and a conflict of interest.

    We're humans, we do stupid things. Just because he is a bad moderator (because many people who get moderator status often end up abusing it) and did a single bad incident shouldn't invalidate his blog nor it should mean he is an awful person.

    [–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    I'm not sure why you see it as a single incident. It was a series of choices—actions—that outline his overall behavior. I don't see how a person who shows no empathy towards others, particularly from a position of 'power' over them, then refuses to acknowledge their poor behavior should get any empathy themselves.

    It has always been a very easy option, if he wanted, to ameliorate the situation himself. Instead he chose to stick to his choices multiple times.

    You're not wrong that it could be considered taking the high road to never bring it up. However, too often do people abuse that expectation to avoid consequences and just continue their behaviors. Without acknowledging their own actions there is no evidence that this is just not their own standard of behavior.

    [–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago

    Thank you! I was pretty fucking sure there was stupidity related to Liam but could not for the life of me find anything in search.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    He was so horny all the time

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    I don't know the guy, but I can relate

    🥺🍆

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Yes, that one. And he still contributes a lot to the Linux community, just in a new form, which is good! Everyone has found their place and is useful to the greater things.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

    Like what? All I can see is copy and paste blog spam.

    [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    He clearly lives rent free in your head, and I'm all for it.

    [–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

    He showed everyone here who he really is. There's no reason to just forget his real self when people keep posting links to his generic gaming blog site instead of the actual source of information.

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago
    [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I too was there for the release of the 2.6 kernel

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 1 month ago

    I put off the switch so long because I didn't know what udev was but I understood that it was important.

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Linux 2.6 released in December 2003. Gnome 2.6 released in March of 2004. At that point Linux was truly ready for the desktop and we've just spent the last twenty years waiting for the rest of the world to catch up.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

    I was alive during that

    Yay

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    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 28 points 1 month ago

    Well played. Closest thing we have to okbuddylinux

    [–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah because Edge didn’t exist back then.

    [–] Stewbs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    Liam had his Edge game on point alright.

    [–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Some say he's still coming to this very day.

    [–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

    I too, obtain great please from gaming on Linux.

    [–] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    "I constantly came" is the funny bit ;)

    [–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

    Thank you for clarifying! My brain could only see this as an excerpt and I was not able to seperate it from the assumed rest of the sentence.

    [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Maybe that's the missing part...

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