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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Software parents are such absolute horseshit.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 26 points 1 month ago

I mean if they help children grow when they have no real parents...

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

For reference, the allegedly infringing patents are these:

[–] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do these not apply to the majority of games, these sound so insanely broad. Patents are so stupid.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sony has a patent for an input device having two data streams at once

usb has more i think.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy hell.

Even by the standard of "all software patents are nonsense", these are a fucking joke.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 41 points 1 month ago

It basically hits any game with mounts or vehicles.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hold my bacon, one can patent the idea that a game character switches mounts depending on a given state? (Image 3)

[–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 22 points 1 month ago

Seems like it. So when you come down from the sky on your flying mount and get close to the ground, you swap to a horse mount for example.

How can one patent this.. wtf!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Software patents are fucked, ain't they? You can implement a thing using completely different code, algorithms, hell even programming languages/CPU architectures, and you'd still be infringing. There was some stupid fight over a simple slider UI element to unlock a phone a few years back.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah software patents should be like "this exact code" or something along these lines. I mean patenting "hello world" should give you billions

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 7 points 1 month ago

Code is already copyrighted by default, so no need for software patents. Luckily software patents are null and void in EU, so I don't have to worry about that.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

The solutions here don't seem to really be solutions in my opinion, especially the third one. It's like if the problem a patent solves was "being able to individually package sandwiches on a conveyor belt" and the solution was "have a machine that recognizes where one sandwich ends and another begins so it can stop and start packaging appropriately." Like, no kidding, but how?

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

So the first two seem to deal with throwing a capture item at a creature (wild pokemon) and/or releasing a character's own creature to fight it (essentially first seen in Legends Arceus, tossing a ball at a pokemon to aggro it and then fighting it with your pokemon). The third one is, as others have said, Mount transitions (at least in pokemon, also first seen in Legends Arceus if you only count ride pokemon; if vehicles are included I believe the first would be Sword/Shield). Though if vehicles are included Nintendo would have a hard time fighting that one. Vehicle transformation, especially in racing games, has been around forever.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why are there dates in the corners?

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These are the patent publication dates, for more details you can check https://patentscope.wipo.int/ with patents 7545191, 7493117 and 7528390

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These look like they are after Palworld was released. Was Nintendo just sitting on the patent since Pokeman red/blue? What an unintuitive legal system they have over in Japan.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

How can you infringe on a patent that doesn't exist when you're writing the code?hopefully Palworld can afford the lawyers to kill this off now.

[–] Grofit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If these were stories I was picking up to implement I would be asking the BA to elaborate some more 😂

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

Looking through the first one's content and it seems reasonable? The patent's abstract is supposed to be as widely applicable as legally permitted, so it's like a completely different language on top of legalese.

[–] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can't wait for gamers to completely ignore this and buy their next console and pokémon game

I've stopped giving Nintendo money for anything, it's been about 5 years now.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Nah fuck them. Got a switch + games. Account hacked. Wrote to tech sup. Nothing but automated answer. Gave that shit away never again

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Yet people keep buying from them

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This will end badly and will hurt gaming. Remember when Nintendo made modding games illegal in Japan..

[–] GoMati@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Still it would be best for Ninny to lose this one hard.

First: if they won't there will be more to come for other games, stopping any innovation in this genre.

Second: Their lawsuits are hitting other software developers (see Yuzu/Ryujinx cases), players and content creators and we need some case where they lose so they don't go even wilder

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

Nintendo sues everyone they can because as an IP holder of some seriously valuable properties, everything else in the gaming industry just looks like free real estate for them to colonize. I can make a game called "Dog Fighters" and I'm sure they'll find a way to tell me they own that idea.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago

I curse patents

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Oh I haven't played that in a while. Looks like a bunch of updates