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[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Queue the "internet people are a vocal minority" saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me

[–] Ardiente@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They never learn do they ?

[–] prof@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.

[–] Yrt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.

Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn't matter a bit.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.

Hopefully there's a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening

[–] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why are people advising against pre-ordering? Is Bethesda known for not meeting expected release dates?

[–] Nymphioxetine@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y

Basically, preordering incentivizes companies to release games that are not finished. In general, companies will always maximize revenues while minimizing costs. If they can release a game that didn't cost them as much to produce (getting massive preorders through good marketing but pinching development and quality) then they absolutely will. look at any AAA released this year

[–] Forkk@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Why are people buying products that they can't even have until release day?

[–] ngwoo@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Preordering is dumb, preordering in 2023 when it's 50/50 whether any given PC port is going to be a total mess is dumb

[–] squid@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

Wish people would wait to see what the game is actually like rather than blindly trusting a corporation.. Consumerism sucks

[–] bbbutch@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

won't preorder, but i so do hope that it's gonna be good and worth the wait ...

[–] qwertzu@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Stop preordering omg

[–] teflocarbon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It looks good in the marketing (it always does) but we should all remember that it’s Bethesda making this. Then again, I can’t even name a developer that I would say “hell yeah, this is gonna be awesome!” at this point. The very sad state of the industry.

[–] Locrin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I don't really care that people throw away their money like this. Because I am now always looking forward to the always very entertaining youtube clips of how much off a disaster the lastet AAA videogame release is.

[–] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago
[–] crisisingot@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

No way am I going to pre-order a game in this era of half baked releases and especially not a game from Bethesda which is as well known for their rampant bugs as their compelling gameplay

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I don't get the appeal of preordering a game months before it comes out when there isn't even a discount for doing so. At least Steam has 2 hour returns, but why money upfront so far away from release?

[–] shadowfly@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The game looks promising, from what i have seen.

Few questions remain: Will it dethrone Jedi Survivor as worst performing game? Will it surpass Redfall in it's emptyness? Does it have a chance fighting LOTR Gollum in "Most 2023ish game of the year"? Or will it truly be a Masterpiece? (Hint: Masterpieces don't get released in 2023).

We will find out at release. Together with those that preorderd.

[–] Mars@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Fellas! Why are games today so buggy! Why are they incomplete? I just don’t understand!!!!‽‽???

[–] Griseowulfin@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The funniest thing is seeing the rage from Star Citizen fanboys about all this. They keep saying "it'll be buggy and awful on release" like SC isn't already. I know with Bethesda, they'll fix it up and the modders will go wild with patches and add ins, delivering all the stuff Chris Roberts said they would. Meanwhile, I try and play Star Citizen and i've died or failed a mission due to glitches any time i've tried to play this past week.

[–] exu@feditown.com 1 points 2 years ago

Modders shouldn't have to fix Bethesda's mess. And I don't trust Bethesda.

[–] yuun@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Star Citizen still has fanboys?

Star Citizen delivers just enough to keep people super invested, their recent server rework is actually a really cool addition but every time I consider trying to play it again I realize how shallow and broken it is as a videogame.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.

But it's even worse with a Bethesda game.

[–] Zonkko@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.

[–] UnhealthyPersona@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I literally don't get it either. "BuT It lEtS me DOwNlOaD iT iN AdVanCE" but like are you really that impatient you need it the second it's released? And before seeing if it's actually a good game or not?? It's like people have learned nothing from the constant shitty releases time and time again

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I don't know if they can reasonably judge the game within the 2 hours frame for refund. (Some game now do a very long shader compilation that can eat 30 minutes of your time.) The tutorial/beginning stage of the game are usually the most polished, but the latter part of the game could become very hollow.

They are going to get themselves cyberpunk'd.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If this gets us another Internet Historian video on the fallout, then this is worth it.

  • Pun unintended.
[–] ash@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

His video was great. Not sure if anyone noticed when they were showcasing the game they were showing console games and cut off right before they fully showed F76 LMAO

[–] Bluebird@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I noticed that as well, made me laugh lol

[–] Cian@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

Stuff like this is the reason game companies continue to release unfinished games, they're breaking even before they even release. Stop pre-ordering games people!

[–] makeitra1n@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Do not preorder ffs...

[–] br3w0r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

DON'T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID

[–] uzay@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Another proof for publishers that they only need big promises and nice trailers to sell their game, nevermind the state they ship it in

[–] EmergingDystopia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This have looks fabulous to me, but there's no way I'm preordering. I don't have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don't mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)

[–] suckaduck@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.

[–] Silverhand@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I learned that from TotalBiscuit a long time ago.

[–] Caffeinated_Capybara@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm starting to get excited about this one now. Although I don't trust Bethesda enough to actually pull the trigger on a preorder. And I still have no man's sky to keep me happy for now.

[–] fish@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Any game where you can be a space trucker is always gonna get a try from me.

[–] pieceofcrazy@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't really get how people's problem with Bethesda is bugs and glitches, which are completely solvable, and not the writing that makes you want to remove some brain tissue from your skull so that it doesn't bother you that much

[–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Id guess that 76 was a big catalyst in that.
Since it was an online game you couldn't load community patches,
so people where kinda forced to stare it in the face.

In addition to that, the perception of AAA games kinda shifted in general.

From Blockbusters with incredible production value, to overhyped and unfinished bug ridden messes.

So Bethesda gets lot more flak now for having so many bugs, even tho almost none are game breaking