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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

ETA: someone suggested SearXNG and after using it a bit it seems to be much better compared to ddg and the rest.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (8 children)

they overengineered it. they now give you results they think most people want instead of what you searched. for google, it helps to switch on verbatim mode and set your country to something weird like Azerbaijan

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Kagi is great. It’s a paid service but you can try 100 searches for free.

You can use the Orion browser on iOS and set Kagi as the search engine.

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[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It becomes more and more true every day.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jesus, the "plandemic" explanation for why the Internet is dying. The Internet IS clearly dying, but this is stupid. Even if we got rid of all the bots and AI, the Internet would still be dying, because open protocols are not as exploitable as walled gardens. The value of capital in the world overwhelms the value of human labour and human interest, and all our social structures conform to the needs of capital over time.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

theyve all been bought and paid for and not by you.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There's an extension that filters out websites from every engine. So like when you see Quora or other other digital garbage in your result, block it once and you'll never see another Quora article again.

Idr the name of the extension - I'll check when I get home and follow up.

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Whats funny and kind of sad, is that they know exactly what you're searching for, and don't give any fucks about showing you that, and instead will show you this cool other thing that they're getting their beak wet on thats like, eh... kinda related to what you typed in. Google didn't get dumber, they just don't have any meaningful competition which would force them to deliver high quality results, and instead of enshittified their results to the point where they're practically useless.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

DDG and qwant are basically bing

[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

4get.ca

Has been very refreshing to use. It’s a bit slow, and you need to do a captcha periodically because they get hella bot spam. It’s got a clean interface, no sponsored results and other junk, and so far it’s felt like “old google” more than anything else. Plus they have my preferred color scheme as a built in option!

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[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

I've found that using Kagi, then DDG, then Google always gets me the results I need. But 95% of the time, Kagi gets it.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I feel it is intentional. They are god damn good at hearing my talking about a baby and shoving all baby videos and social media post in every corner for ad revenue; yet when I search about something trivial I cannot get an answer.

Even AI becoming useless the last couple of weeks compare to a few months back where it gave details answers.

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[–] detective__mcnulty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I agree with you. It has gotten worse.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I've been trying to use ddg and I just find it infuriating that it never finds what I need, especially if I'm looking for local information about something. Google seems to always prioritize those types of results when I need them (probably because it makes it easier to sell me something).

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Kagi is very good.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Why have you not tried Kagi? If it's important to you to have good search and you don't like being spied on and having ads shoved down your throat, it's worth paying a small fee for quality instead of paying with your privacy for crap results. It's been a breath of fresh air. Searching is fun again. It also indexes Lemmy. Traditional Search has largely gone to crap, but I'm tired of everyone complaining that these mega companies offering 'free' services aren't holding their end of the deal instead of supporting the people that are doing something about it. I'm not optimistic things like qwant or searx will be sustainable or deliver high quality results, but by all means donate to them with time or money if you believe in them.

[–] ArdMacha@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (8 children)
[–] capital@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The search problem is largely due to not being the actual customer.

Look at me. I’m the customer now.

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Neither is beer

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[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Searching is fun again.

What? When was searching ever "fun"? And when was that even a desirable state? Statements like this contribute to the propensity to dismiss kagi fans as shills.

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