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Senate chairman demands answers from emergency rooms that denied care to pregnant patients (apnews.com)
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Hospitals are facing questions about why they denied care to pregnant patients and whether state abortion bans have influenced how they treat those patients.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, sent inquiries to nine hospitals ahead of a hearing Tuesday looking at whether abortion bans have prevented or delayed pregnant women from getting help during their miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies or other medical emergencies.

Republicans on Tuesday assailed the hearing, with outright denials about the impact abortion laws have on the medical care women in the U.S. have received, and called the hearing a politically-motivated attack just weeks ahead of the presidential election. Republicans, who are noticeably nervous about how the new abortion laws will play into the presidential race, lodged repeated complaints about the hearing’s title, “How Trump Criminalized Women’s Health Care.”

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 86 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Republicans on Tuesday assailed the hearing, with outright denials about the impact abortion laws have on the medical care women in the U.S. have received, and called the hearing a politically-motivated attack just weeks ahead of the presidential election. Republicans, who are noticeably nervous about how the new abortion laws will play into the presidential race, lodged repeated complaints about the hearing’s title, “How Trump Criminalized Women’s Health Care.”

If you're worried about how your policy will look like at time of election as it will be overwhelmingly unpopular than maybe don't defend it and change policies?

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 31 points 3 days ago

Feelings don't care about your facts.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

That's my Senator! Well, one of them!

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wake up people the GOP is going to get women to die because of lack of care.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 72 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

And 11% nationwide.

With numbers like Texas, I think we can safely assume that 11% number is being driven exclusively by red states.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey it's the death panels that Republicans warned about. They did it first.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Some of you will die....

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol. Don’t ask the emergency room. Ask your politicians.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, have the hospitals go on the record as to why this is happening.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

It’s probably documented already. Hospitals usually do that.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

Thing that everyone joked about (to mentally handle the horror) that was definitely going to really happen, happens.

Better late then never to stop it from happening I guess.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

WoP shits are killing women over their misguided imbecilic christojihad. The only ban should be on anything to do with these draconian monsters with no ethics. They will be stoning people, legalizing biblical slavery, and outlawing interest based lending as usury next because they depend upon draconian stupidity for logic.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Hey, I'm making laws that puts you in prison if you helped certain people, but then question you when you don't help them". Best logic ever.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's actually different people saying those two parts of the sentence. As a US Senator, ~~Eden~~ Wyden is positioned to submit a bill to protect abortion at the federal level. So this hearing is likely for gathering information to use in a bill to restore abortion rights nationally, rather than an attempt to bully the healthcare providers.

edited to fix autocorrect of senator's name

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't the Feds play Supremacy clause and ensure any drs are immune from this bullshit?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

They're supposed to be already. But most people don't want to risk their careers or lives when Texas comes knocking.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hospitals and healthcare workers are not getting enough scrutiny on this issue. Ultimately, the fault lies with Trump and the Supreme Court. They made the policy change which has led to the preventable deaths of women. But it’s also true that it is a doctor’s job to help people, and waiting until women are near death to provide treatment because they fear legal exposure is antithetical to the job that every reasonable person expects them to do.

I understand that being a doctor is hard, and that they are faced with incredibly difficult decisions every day. But if a woman is bleeding out in front of you, it’s literally your job to try to save her, immediately. Waiting for her to get worse, for even a minute, is immoral and not what patients expect of their doctors.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The risk analysis is really bad for those in abortion ban states. You can face a malpractice suite for allowing a pregnant woman to bleed out, which your insurance will cover, or you can face murder chargers for performing am illegal abortion, which can be 20+ years in jail or even capital murder.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

And we cannot expect them to make that choice. They are not to blame and people should not be shifting the blame that must lie with the political elite who constantly push these evil restrictions.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

That’s really upsetting. I tend to forget that the healthcare industry in the US has to rely on cold hard calculations like this in the background. It really takes the person out of the patient.

Emergency doctors should have some kind of qualified immunity like what cops have, but the opposite, really, because it should protect them from prosecution when they make a medical decision that results in someone’s life being saved. The law shouldn’t even be a consideration when someone is dying in front of you and you have the ability to save them.

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I’m biased but putting the onus on doctors here completely misses the point in my opinion. Let me just point out that this isn’t a “policy change” - these states have made it illegal to perform these procedures. In at least one state the physician can go to prison.

In an idealistic worldview we can expect every person to do the morally optimal thing every time without regard to consequences but that simply isn’t realistic. You are basically advocating that physicians should be jumping to break the law and therefore endanger themselves. That just is not a realistic expectation of any person.

Tl;dr - Physicians are just people and are not the ones that created this situation. They are normal people and expecting them to sacrifice career/freedom to help one patient is beyond what is realistic.