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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

By all modern shithead alt-righters, Skyrim is "ultra woke": It promotes ultimate equality and the ability to be anything you want to be, and freely become someone else later.

Or maaaaaybe people who use "woke" unironically just lack the brain capacity to comprehend even a game like Skyrim. 🤷

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Morrowind is a basically the thesis of Things Fall Apart in video game form, with a good deal of Dune. It’s an examination of colonialism. Every detail of that game is dripping with politics. The Dunmer are racist and engage in horrific chattel slavery - but does that mean it is right for the Empire to colonize them and take their resources? There’s substantial evidence that your character is a spook sent to “fulfill” an indigenous prophecy to tighten the Empire’s control - is that morally right?

There’s also a hermaphrodite male presenting god who has had hundreds of children with something quite close to the Devil.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Somebody has been hitting the moon sugar a little too hard.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I have stock if you have coin...

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Woke basically applies to the bigots just realizing and getting worked up by things that had existed for decades. Either they've been dozing off for decades or have been "woken" up to it by propaganda with political undertones, and neither speaks highly of their mental faculties.

Although the thing about The Elder Scrolls in general is that it doesn't hand hold you, so you are free to be a racist bigot and not realize it. They don't force realization onto the player, you can happily adopt and become a tool of the point they are trying to criticize, you can willfully remain as ignorant as you would be in real life. In contrast to Starfield, where all companions are like the borg, of one mind telling you or nudging you into what you should have actually done.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately what I really think is happening/happened with "woke hate" is manipulation for political gain as you mentioned with propaganda.

These people couldn't care less before, other than the religious zealots that would crusade against anything "gay." The political right (I really believe this started in earnest in the US) found a pressure point to use that puts them in direct opposition to what their political adversary aims to achieve (acceptance of all people for who they are). As it stands in the US the right operates almost entirely based off of "whatever the left aims for, make it appear evil. Always oppose all that they do." as opposed to having specific goals of their own other than "shower the wealthy with benefits, remove all barriers to retaining the entirety of profits."

Steve Bannon recently aimed their manipulation at what he described as "rootless white men" through the lense of gaming and societys affect on games/movies. Ever since that started there's been an "explosion" of "this game woke?" discussions in Steam discussion fourms and in regard to movies. Before this manipulation these people just wouldn't care and if anything you'd just see the odd person here or there complain about 2 guys kissing in a specific scene or something. They are made to be even more angry now because they're made to believe it's an affront to them and an attempt to manipulate them and society... Which is "funny" because they are being manipulated, just not by gaming/movie media.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah the real reason they're doing this cultural stuff is that they need a distraction from the fact that their material/economic platform is becoming more and more unpopular every year. So the anti woke/anti immigration frenzy must continue

Dem politicians should point this out more, but their economic program isn't very popular either. I miss Bernie :(

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[–] omega_x3@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What about a politician who sexually harasses an employee and making that employee read their erotic interspecies fan fiction.

[–] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hey, don't talk shit about The Lusty Argonian Maid, it's a classic!

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Aye, I could do that.

[–] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

"Hey kid, ya wanna be Hortator?" - Harvey Weinstein voice

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 177 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Specifying a 'racist conservative' is redundant.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dagoth Ur is woke as fuck and he will awaken all you sleepers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even worse, imagine how woke the books of Karl May (not to be confused with Karl Marx) the most successful German author of all time that were originally published in book form in the 1890s [sic] would be if they came out today:

The foreword to the main trilogy would be so spicy that no modern English translation would include it. Like: He would call out the genocide of the native Americans as such and explicitly assign the full guilt for the decline of their cultures to the whites.

He would have the author-self-insert heroes telling people that use the N-word that “Once they scrape you into the ground, your white-skinned body will become straight and exactly as much a stinking carcass as a negro corpse. You will admit that, and now have the goodness to list your other merits!”

He would have trans coded characters being presented in an unambigously positive light.

And so many more incredibly woke things, like trash talking Christians that don’t respect all other humans and do evil shit…

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago

Good, now make it gayer!

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In RL Vivek is the racist one.

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)
[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But how many times and on how many platforms?

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In short, exactly how it was and how it should be.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Small correction but pelinal was a time traveling cyborg, but being gay is close

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

According to MK, he was written to be gay, but higher-ups had him make his relationship with Huna ambiguous.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Huna dies at the hands of the Ayleids

Pelinal goes on what is arguably the greatest slaughter ever perpetrated by one single being in the full history of the gd universe, culminating in not just the overthrow but freaking extinction of the Ayleid race

"They were just good friends"

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

History will say they were roommates

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't all Daedric Prince genderless? They just assume the form they like, some are just a pile of tentacle.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 31 points 4 days ago (12 children)

In a literal sense, yes. But they present themselves as male or female usually. So it's still appropriate to refer to Boethia as "genderfluid" because they send to switch it up.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I miss the time when people realized that fiction, even if possibly metaphoric, is ultimately not real.

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