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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19456945

Google is working on a redesign of Quick Settings that might launch with Android 16.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So more like the old way which was more functional. Good. Also while they're at it if they could bring back the single tap toggle for Bluetooth but long press to connect devices, I'd like that. This way sucks.

[–] wondrous_strange@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

While speaking on Bluetooth toggle, I find it very annoying that in order to toggle it, you have to unlock the phone. I.e. when phone locked, you click the button, then get prompted for unlocking, then the phone is unlocked and the Bluetooth toggled. In such case, the phone should stay locked after the prompt and only toggle the functionality

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously, I just want to disconnect my headphones to connect them to my PC. It's easier now to just turn them off and on again, hoping my PC is quicker with pairing.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

This is my literal gripe lol. Phone to PC. So frustrating.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could it be a security measure, to stop others from enabling it on your locked device, since enabled bluetooth might be a weakness security-wise?

[–] wondrous_strange@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All I was saying it should keep your phone locked after the BT was toggled

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I just re-read your comment. I see now that mine didn't really answer to what you actually said - sorry for that.

I agree with you, though. Unlocking the screen is useless when the user only wanted to quickly toggle a mode of connectivity or such.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

This is a good point. I used to use it all the time without unlocking my phone. Now it's just annoying.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gosh that bluetooth button annoys me still. It was working fine and they changed it... why?

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The same reason they always do. Because reasons.

I miss how customizable old android was, then google comes in hot with material-u all like "we brought you customization". No, no you did not.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I HATE material you. Why did the buttons need to move? Heck, they just moved the search field from the top of the play store to inside a new tab at the bottom.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I want my wifi toggle back dammit.

Edit: I'd also love not to be harassed when I turn off GPS google data addict freaks.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously. Thank god for calyxos which lets you have separate wifi and mobile internet toggles.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I need to make the move but feel like I'll have to take a day off to backup, install, set up, and transfer my old stuff first.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Better Internet Tiles
F-Droid
Play store

Requires either Shizuku or root, but works well enough that I forgot it wasn't the default until you reminded me.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is shizuku a big vulnerability?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only if you don't trust what's using it, but both it and the app I linked are open source, so I personally consider the risk to be minimal.

It also has a permission system, you have to allow each app that uses it. (Just like root managers such as Magisk)

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems like the comeback of a more sane system. I just wish they stopped using so many circles or such huge rounded corners that enforce smaller and smaller text and icons.

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 1 points 1 month ago

That reminds me of a meme

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

I'm so tired of this bubble settings crap. This seems like a step in the right direction.

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow, first time I feel strongly about a quick settings update. It looks awful, taking the worst parts of the Android 12+ redesign and combining them with the worst ideas from the older design, like unlabeled icons.

It looks like there are unlabeled icons in the expanded state? Wtf? If I'm expanding the quick settings, that means I'm fishing for the less used settings, so there's no way I'm going to remember that for example the weird circle with a small segment cut out means "Data saver". It will just be a mystery icon that does some mystery action - that has nothing to do in a modern OS.

It looks like this design is heavily sacrificing usability for people who don't spend hours every day mucking around with quick settings in order to please some hypothetical user who feels more slowed down by swiping over one or two screens than by having to find the one setting they currently need in a big matrix of poorly designed icons.

Edit: also it looks like the home screen is visible under the quick settings - I'm not a big fan of that, I really like the current design where the notifications are pretty much their own separate screen without distracting app content, but that's just my subjective taste. Unlabeled icons are objectively bad.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My brother in Christ and all his disciples, can we just go back to the quick settings from Android 11 that is accessible when holding and using the phone with one hand and has more than 4 options? Or, and I know this sounds CRAZY, give users a choice? If you are going to harp on Apple about locking their ecosystem down, then when you introduce new methods of navigation keep some way of going back to the old way.

I can even do this in the shit box that is Windows 11. I finally had to use and interact with it for the first time this week, and with the installation of two programs I was able to get the start menu, taskbar, and right click menu back to the way I want. Even installing Lineage OS on my phone can't get me back to the old quick settings tiles as far as I am aware of.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Nope. They're going to shove those graphic design skills down your throat whether you like it or not. Remember though it's not because corporations hate you, it's because they love money. I'm not sure how that translates here but I'm sure it makes somebody money somehow so it's suffering for us!

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

I probably change the brightness setting the most. Why is it all the way at the top of the settings, the furthest out of reach it could be?

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

One thing that pisses me off with modern UI design is the lack of labels beside icons.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

looks a bit more saner.. imo they're making such huge rounded+padding ui to sell bigger display panels lol. doesn't help ux at all when the text isn't any bigger.

[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 0 points 1 month ago

Nah, this development version is way worse than both Android 12+ design and Android 11 design - it just has random unlabeled tiles for system settings where you have to guess the meaning by the icon.

In Android 11, this was only used for the six quick settings you could access when you were looking at the notifications, and they would get labels when you expanded the settings side. In 12+, there are no unlabeled settings anywhere. But this redesign introduced unlabeled tiles for settings you don't use often, which just seems insane to me.

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Can we as a society STOP WITH THESE FUNCKING REDESIGNS?! We had ir right with Android whatever 3 or 4 vesions ago. No need to redo what is functional and we're used to.

And it's not just Android. Windows 11 is inventing the wheel all over again. Like dude, you did it with Windows 10. Why are you remaking everything? Just maintain, fix bugs and from time to time a feature that's needed.

I feel like more and more IT companies are changing designs just for the sake of looking fresh.

EDIT:
Wait, Android 16? I don't remember hearing about Android 15, did I miss something?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Please just copy the one from Apple.