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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It seems to require a lack of critical thinking to avoid voting for Harris because of this since Trump will offer no better alternative.

Harris's position is wrong, of course, but avoiding a Trump presidency is crucial.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago

A Trump presidency would be categorically worse for Palestine.

People voting for Stein, rather than Harris, over Palestine are the very epitome of bad critical thinking skills.

A main sponsor of the Green Party this election is Russia (1, 2, 3); Stein opposes US support for Ukraine, and essentially blames Russia's invasion on the US.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to Muslim voters, who are split between Harris and Stein, and that can potentially swing Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the challenge the DNC has, isn't it? I wouldn't relish that job since I think Harris' position won't change, the DNC being the institution it is.

I think if I had do, I'd argue that while the DNC is 100% wrong on Palestine, Trump is stronger in his support of Israel, he's even less sympathetic to the Palestinians AND he will aim to make life in America harder for Muslims just as he tried in his first term.

It's a pragmatic choice, not an enthusiastic one, and it's hard to drive voters to the polls on pragmatism alone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

The thing is, support for Israel isn't moral for the DNC or GOP, it's economic. The US relies on Israel to serve as a land-based aircraft carrier equivalent, it's the military foothold by which the US maintains Imperialist control and supports the Petro-Dollar.

The issue for Muslim voters is that they do not wish to support genocide, and believe both parties to be unwavering in their support.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

If Democrats lose Pennsylvania and Michigan because Muslim voters are largely shifting to the Green Party, the Dems will only have themselves to blame.

[–] ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This post has had a number of reports. It technically doesn't break any rules, and it's also on -74 votes, so I'm not going to remove it.