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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Do conservatives on lemmy ever do anything but whine that they're not immediately worshiped for their opinions?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know a lot of you are meming, but the amount of dogshit takes here is almost depressing.

There is no single answer to what a good government looks like, there is no "best one" and surely any single one that is based purely on ideals or idealized human behavior will fail, no matter how hard you believe in it.

One of the arguably most successful governments is the Chinese one and they are and were neither just, nor friendly, nor purely capitalist, communist or authoritarian. They are very China first and fuck everyone else and that works because of a lack of conscience and them adapting to everything without a second thought. Looking away and screwing people over as needed. You can be capitalist as long as it works for them. You can do whatever if it benefits them.

The US does this too, in different ways with similar effects.

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[–] trafficnab@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hadn't experienced hexbear (literally) shitting up the place yet, has a way to block entire instances been implemented or do I gotta find a new one that isn't federated with them?

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you're incapable of seeing perspectives outside the mainstream I hear Reddit is nice this time of year

[–] trafficnab@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can tune out tankie nonsense (not accusing everyone at hexbear of being tankies, but you guys sure do hang out with a lot of them) pretty easily, it's the 20 full pages of literal pig shit I'm talking about

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] trafficnab@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My personal definition would be "authoritarian communist (or """communist""") regime supporters/apologists". I think a good litmus test is, if the topic of the Tiananmen Square massacre comes up, and their first input is "Ok, but, how many zeroes did the number of dead civilians really have", they're probably too far gone to bother engaging much with

Too many anarchist/commune types consider the authoritarians to be their allies because they also hate the capitalists, right up until the point they're next on the list of undesirables destined for the wall

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[–] neptune@dmv.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pity, you have to defend your ideas in a free market of thought.

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[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is not "when you have markets." I totally agree that it's important to have well regulated markets. But capitalism perverts democracy with bribery and lobbying. Democratic Socialism is when you have a democratic government and a democratic economy.

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I think capitalism wouldn't be so bad if it was limited to what it's good at. Fashion, tech, entertainment, snacks, ect.

But essential food, housing, water, healthcare, even electricity and internet access, the idea that these things that will always have infinite demand is haphazardly controlled through profit motive is disgusting.

Infrastructures should be government controlled and free. Essential resources should have some sort of universal basic "food stamps" system. Then actual money just becomes the luxury "fun bucks" that you don't lose out on if you don't have a lot. For example pet owners would be given a credits for pet food and free vet care, but a silly pet costume would use money.

Disclaimer: This is just a personal idea I've been mulling over, I'm sure there's a million holes in it.

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[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reality is not left leaning. Leftist politics are reality-leaning

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