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[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

wtf is going on at NYT, ffs. is all the money in fact-phobic reactionary hackery these days?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

No. You whippersnappers may not remember, but journalistic standards once were a thing.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I made what might have been the mistake of showing my teenager Idiocracy recently, because now she compares everything to it. I mean she's not wrong, but...

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not a mistake. When I read 1984 as a teenager, it forever inoculated me against doublespeak and propaganda. Maybe that movie can fulfill a similar function today.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know it wasn't actually a mistake. There's just been a lot of "that's just like Idiocracy!" "I know, I know" conversations now. She's never wrong, obviously.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it wasn't that, she'd find something else to be obnoxious about. For me everything was literally 1984 at the time.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Now you're older, how frequently do you think you were right in your comparisons?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Was it when they said Hitler didn't really mean what he said about Jews before he became Chancellor? Or when they knowingly printed lies to make the case for an Iraq invasion? Or be stenographers pretty much anytime the cops say anything? Or the IDF?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

The New York Times has had some past scandals. Notably during the Iraq war. They regained their reputation. Now they are losing it again.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Reckless disregard for the truth. Come on, NYT, you had a whole "v. Sullivan" about this.