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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It will never stop being absurd to me that so called "fiscal conservatives" can't seem to understand what a limited resource is. Or pollution.

Even if global warming was a complete hoax we should still be transitioning. Every nation that doesn't have immense oil reserves should be transitioning! It's literally in your national interests you nationalist fuckwits!

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Fiscal conservative" was always just a reputable seeming veneer for "we'd rather let poor people die than tax the wealthy at the same rate as everyone else".

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Reality is a team sport, to some people. They don't mean things when they say words. They're just signalling loyalty to their ingroup hierarchy, and playing a dominance game where they get to decide what's true. It's not a judgement call. In their worldview there is no objective means to evaluate claims. There's just whatever their guy says, and whatever our guy says, and their guy is right because he's their guy.

So please stop falling for it when they declare themselves fiscal experts. They don't give the slightest shit. They're just shuffling cards. It's another song and dance they do, to grasp for narrative legitimacy. Nothing else exists in their moral universe.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 months ago

She's right, it is ideological. The ideals are this planet and the humans on it, which ironically includes her.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

The EU keeps doing amazing and tough things for humanity. I'm always astounded at how much they're achieving and I wish my government had even a fraction of the EU's current operational capability.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

"at the expense of economic and social sustainability, [but] defending and promoting European production and safeguarding tens of thousands of jobs."

I mean, she's right in general that the EU might not be taking care of the workers of the affected industries. But that doesn't mean the way to take care of them is to halt the transition of the worst offending sectors. There's no reason not to super subsidize the auto sector transition to make EVs in the EU other than ideology. The transition doesn't mean dependence on Chinese EVs and jobless or downskilled auto workers.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So. Is italy going to brexit itself?

[–] lambipapp@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I still won't buy Italian cars