ha, wow. this really highlights how out of whack the conservatives are. the debt is usually the club they use to beat the dems into submission when they do not control the whitehouse. when conservatives have the white house, the debt is never, ever an issue.
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You’re spot on. Called the two Santa Clauses theory.
Trumplicans aren’t conservatives. There are a handful of traditional conservatives left in Congress, and they’ve been actively leaving due to the infighting of MAGA Republicans.
This was happening way before MAGA.
Conservatives comprised the majority of Republicans before 2016. Trump saw a rift in the party and tore it wide open.
I do not disagree with what you’re saying.
My point was that this hypocrisy about the national debt predates MAGA by like 40 years. I posted an article explaining it all. Two Santa Clause Theory.
I was only commenting on ~~your~~ the use of the term conservatives in place of Republicans. They’re not synonymous anymore. I completely agree with your point about the hypocrisy.
I see what you’re saying. For what it’s worth I never used either term. That was u/originallucifer.
You have piqued my interest though. What would you consider Republicans if they aren’t conservatives? I consider them Far right conservatives. Radical conservatives if you will.
They’re not fiscally conservative if they can’t balance a budget. Right wing or Republicans is what I use. I didn’t notice that you weren’t the initial commenter. Sorry about that. I corrected my mistake.
The sad part is no Republican since Eisenhower in 1960 has had a balanced budget.
Clinton handed GW Bush a budget surplus in 2001 and is the last time we’ve had a balanced budget.
So by your definition Republicans have not been conservative in a very long time?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD
Edit: I initially listed LBJs 1969 surplus as the most recent Republican balanced budget due to a brain fart forgetting he was a Democratic politician.
Disagree completely. Trump conservatives are just your normal conservatives who aren't afraid to say things out loud anymore.
They’d have to demonstrate fiscal responsibility to be accurately labeled as conservatives.
No they don't. That's always been a lie they tell.
Ah, the regular "America's debt is $___" article, which never seems to make a difference in my life.
That's a lot of money and the most in the world, but USA is also the worlds biggest economy. The better way to measure is by % of GDP, and when you look at it that way, USA is number 45, with 95% as of December. With a few countries with bigger debt percentage, that are considered very strong and healthy economies like for instance Norway and Denmark.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
Funny how the national debt only ever comes up when Republicans want something
We keep lowering taxes on the wealthiest and then wondering why we can't afford our budgets. How stupid are we? The national debt will get solved the moment we start making corporations and people earning 7 figures (US$) a year pay their fair share instead of spending it on megaprojects and megayachts.
Republicans plan to bleed the country dry and let it fall. Wake up.
Wow, who the hell cares? It's literally made up money. I've watched the debt climb year after year, with zero impact to day to day life.
Well, if people don't like inflation -- a source of major popular complaint -- paying down the national debt will tend to tamp down on it, I suppose.