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Republicans are losing their fight to ban drag — at least for now.

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[–] Ryan213@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They should ban youth pastors instead.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Somebody has to make that abortion ban effective

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We probably want to avoid government-mandated dress codes right? Seems like an easy first amendment case.

Limiting drag SHOWS to a certain age range seems like it would be in the state's jurisdiction, maybe difficult to say what the compelling state interest is without leaning into some baseless talking points but states generally get the benefit of the doubt there.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Limiting drag SHOWS to a certain age range seems like it would be in the state's jurisdiction

I disagree, because there is no real difference between drag "shows" and other "shows", other than the presence of men in flamboyant outfits that do not fit gender norms. Some drag shows may be explicit and not fit for children, but there are plenty of other shows that fit this category, and existing laws cover all of them, no matter what the participants wear (or don't wear, as the case may be).

But there is nothing prurient with regard to a man in an evening gown reading to children at a library. All it does is normalize the fact that wearing an evening gown is an acceptable choice for a man. That's what conservatives see as rhe real danger here: that forms of expression they see as "abnormal" are now normalized. So they make up this fiction that anything that defies gender norms is now unfit for children, no matter what the content really is.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly it becomes a government mandated dress code for performance. And based on gender no less.

Doing this you wind up banning Shakespeare and not just the whole “every role is played by a man” style, but no matter the casting some of his comedies contain drag.

And from there you have bio drag. There are cis women performing as queens who are indistinguishable from the cis men they perform alongside when on stage.

Now certain forms of sexually provocative dancing sure fight it out but it needs to be equally illegal for Beyoncé at the Super Bowl.

Saying drag is sexually explicit is like saying stand up comedy is sexually explicit. Yeah a lot of it is but not the stuff for kids at a library unless someone is displaying poor judgement.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the aspect that seeing drag shows will turn a child lgbqt+ just from seeing it. Or the fact that all lgbtq+ are pedophiles.

Conservatives have absolutely no idea what they are talking about on this. “Oh the horror. They’re indoctrinating our kids by dressing like that and telling them a story.”

These idiots need to realize this is America and we have undeniable rights to our freedom. Government overreach at its finest. Conservatives are afraid of the truth that everyone has a right to be themselves.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

No, they understand perfectly well what's happening. Many of their kids are rejecting their ideologies, which these conservatives have been working for years to instill in their kids. The kids understand, though, that the guy in the dress is a lot more tolerant and empathetic than their parents are.

So these clueless parents have to insist the problem is with the gays, and if the gays just weren't so gay out in public all the time, their kids would never have caught it. Because the alternative is that the parents have been teaching the wrong things all this time, and they would never admit that.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if my ex father blamed queer media for me transitioning. And like yeah it contributed to the decision to choose to transition instead of trying whatever it took to dull the pain of dysphoria in a self destructive spiral. I prefer the college degree and happy marriage to the drug addiction I could’ve had personally

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

True. The important part to realize is their phobia is so prevalent they don’t realize how stupid they are

[–] exohuman@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

This is such an obvious 1st amendment rights issue. Anyone can wear anything that is allowed on the property and you can’t even ban minors because drag doesn’t mean revealing clothing. It’s open and shut.