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For one of the biggest moments of his life, Eric Bochene wore a faded white t-shirt and sat in an empty, green-walled conference room, straining to hear the volume from the computer. He grimaced as the virtual conference technology glitched. And he frequently voiced his frustration with his situation.

Bochene pleaded guilty in late August to a federal criminal charge for his role in the U.S. Capitol attack. But he didn't stand in a courtroom. His lawyer wasn't standing next to Bochene. Instead the attorney was on a separate virtual conference connection. And Bochene wasn't permitted to choose his own outfit.

Though he was pleading guilty to only a misdemeanor charge, Bochene was required to appear remotely for his hearing from a holding room in the Broome County jail in Binghamton, NY. He wore his jail outfit, sitting beneath fluorescent lights, because Bochene isn't a typical Jan. 6 defendant.

Bochene is one of a growing number of U.S. Capitol riot defendants who absconded and became fugitives after their arrests or initial court appearances.

The prosecution related to the Jan. 6, 2021 siege is the largest in American history, with approximately 1,100 criminal defendants from nearly every state. Though more than 600 of those defendants have pleaded guilty and dozens more have gone to trial, at least six became – or were — fugitives over the course of this summer. Some are still wanted by the FBI. Eric Bochene was one of them

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[–] Mikey_donuts@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago

Gotta catch em all

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That would stink if you’re a fugitive and someone puts you as the 3 of Clubs.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Anyone familiar with Penn and Teller knows the Three of Clubs would be an honor these fugitives do not deserve.

[–] diablomnky666@lemmy.wtf 5 points 10 months ago

Might actually get them to turn themselves in:

"There's no way I'm only the 3 of Clubs. I'm definitely the King of Hearts or Ace of Spades. Who do I talk to about getting that changed?"

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

How about a deck of Uno cards, since they were trying to reverse the election?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He was defiant during some hearings, invoking language consistent with the sovereign citizen movement.

How you signal that you’re a complete piece of shit and that you’re guilty guilty guilty.

[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought the sovereign citizen thing fizzled out in the early 2010s. Also, it most of all signals that you're incredibly incredibly annoying

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's a mail order scam that targets poor, criminal defendants with no education.

They think they are buying law books of magic phrases that let them do whatever they want in court.

There's a great decision on it from a chief judge in Canada. I'll try and find it.

E - Meads v. Meads by Justice Rooke. Called to decide a simple legal dispute, he wrote a 100+ page treatise on sovereign citizens. It's the seminal work. https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html

[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Oh right, yeah I only really knew about it from videos of people being ticketed for speeding or whatever and them shouting about being a so sovereign citizen. It makes total sense that these people would be very easy to scam though

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 19 points 10 months ago

Have they checked all the police departments yet?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And not one of them named Richard Kimble. Enjoy the cell.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

It was the one-armed man!

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

But I know one of them is Red Herring!!!!!

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hm, which states did not participate in the violent insurrection of Washington DC?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nebraska was the only state where nobody was arrested for Jan6.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Likely the ones farther west from DC and/or smaller populations. Id be surprised if Hawaii had an attendant

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hawaii Proud Boy was in the riot, sentenced in December... Okay I found the list of arrests(https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases) but there's a thousand plus so far, I'll take a rain check on tallying which states escaped the mark of treason.

But I will come back to it. Interesting trivia

[–] flicker@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

@Varyk

No... no, this isn't an acceptable hyperfocus! I HAVE WORK TO DO! AAA-

Well, we go where the serotonin demands.

Here is an alphabetical list and the number of entries on the FBI site for cases in that state. Be advised this is of the number of people who were arrested in each state, so outliers (such as fugitives) aren't made clear, and neother are those who might be listed for multiple arrests in different states.

Additionally, I counted them by hand, on my awful phone, so user error is real.

Finally, I had some mechanical difficulty sorting through the individuals in the state of Washington versus towns named Washington in other states, versus the District of Columbia, the number of which I included after the list.

Alabama - 16
Alaska - 2
Arizona - 11
Arkansas - 4
California - 59
Colorado - 17
Connecticut - 4
Delaware - 5
Florida - 95
Georgia - 24
Hawaii - 1
Idaho - 7
Illinois - 36
Indiana - 18
Iowa - 8
Kansas - 19
Kentucky - 23
Louisiana - 3
Maine - 5
Maryland - 16
Massachusetts - 11
Michigan - 23
Minnesota - 12
Mississippi - 1
Missouri - 31
Montana - 5
Nebraska - 1
Nevada - 3
New Hampshire - 5
New Jersey - 28
New Mexico - 3
New York - 66
North Carolina - 24
North Dakota - 0
Ohio - 58
Oklahoma - 10
Oregon - 8
Pennsylvania - 80
Rhode Island - 4
South Carolina - 15
South Dakota - 2
Tennessee - 28
Texas - 84
Utah - 9
Vermont - 1
Virginia - 53
Washington - 14
West Virginia - 8
Wisconsin - 9
Wyoming - 0

Bonus round, Discrict of Columbia - 31

Also, I found zero incidents listed in any US territories but I may have been searching incorrectly.

I don't think it's fair that North Dakota (population; 763,657) and Wyoming (population 585,587) get the honor of being in the clear. The population of Hawaii (as estimated, my sympathies for the fires) was 1.43 million and produced a mere one insurrectionist. So I think a fairer metric might be insurrectionists by percentage of overall population. It might be skewed in some specific instances (New York being skewed by New York city, as a prime example) but it would be a more interesting metric...

God I hope I forget this thought experiment before I come to work tomorrow.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

You could also compare the number of insurrectionists per capita to the expected number. For example, state x has 4% of the country's population but 6% of the insurrectionists.

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Was surprised to only see one from my former home state of Mississippi but then i figured most were too poor/busy wage slaving to attend

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh wow, I was going to do a similar thing with a spreadsheet on my computer, so hats off to the dedication it took you to hunt and peck this information DANG!

[–] flicker@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@Varyk

I assure you that compiling this data was nonconsensual but my brain is rarely concerned with how I feel about it.

The worst part is, I put together a list of the insurrectionists by state, and I got through New York before I was able to override my impulse and just provide a list of how many per state. I hate being hard-wired for tedious paperwork.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

That particular sort of attention must be valued in some marketing or accounting field. Take advantage of your fastidious nature. Or rather, let it roam free.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'd love to see a sorted bar graph of this

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

North Dakota surprises me. It's been solidly Trump Territory for a decade.

Maybe they got stuck in the snow and couldn't make it to DC in time.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Definitely had people from Washington show up. I think six Seattle PD officers attended.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Ppff, a bunch of rich, privileged and undereducated people with nothing to do on an island? I'd be surprised if they don't have some participants.

Okay, I'm diving in.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

he once reviewed the possibility of denouncing his U.S. citizenship

Pretty sure they mean renouncing...

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's exactly what an innocent person would do... /s

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Damn that one dude, more like he deployed his whole chin.