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[-] Shirasho@lemmings.world 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Carlin has a lot of bangers, but this isn't one of them and doesn't sound like something he would say. It completely trivializes the struggle of the lower class.

[-] zaphod@feddit.de 19 points 4 months ago

Reads like something a boomer would say. With a mindset like this you're definitely part of the problem.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

What does that even mean? That you shouldn't try to solve problems? Why wouldn't you be able to comprehend solutions to problems you are not causing?

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

So if you're ignorant, you're not causing the problem?

What does this even mean?

Also you you.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago
[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

does heat death of the universe count as a solution?

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fortunately, mercifully, the very concepts of problems and solutions will have faded into oblivion long before then.

Humans cause ourselves a lot of misery in our never ending quest to label every conceivable human impulse as right and wrong. I get stuff like murder, but right down to what other people say and value.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Firstly, Carlin had a pretty dark landing, and was also conveniently dead by the time trump farted in the zeitgeist. So yeah he was wrong on this one.

Secondly, is that an AI picture? It doesn’t really look like him. It looks like a look-alike.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I adore Carlin, and have even granted him sainthood in my own fake religion.

That being said: He was incredibly privileged in almost every way. It's easy to have this mindset when you're watching the game from your own private box.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I think I agree that if you think there's A solution, then you're part of the problem. There's never really a solution, one unambiguously right answer that magically solves everything, like in the back of a textbook.

There are countless tiny actions which can gradually tick us closer to something better, through determination and vigilance.

But history is rife with flawed monolithic "solutions". The magic pill mindset is a problem itself. It oversimplifies complex problems, closes the mind to compromise, and overinflates confidence in a tidy ideal. The problems in the world are messy, anyone who says there's A solution is delusional or trying to sell you something.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

For example, I can think of a solution to Russia invading Ukraine, giving Ukraine resources to repell the invasion. How would I be part of the problem if the Russian invasion?

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In a vacuum maybe, but nothing is in a vacuum, especially with our species. Excellent example by the way:

We recently did give more money to Ukraine to defend themselves, seems noble. In order to pass it, it was tied to additional funds for Israel's ongoing genocide.

So basically we helped Ukranian civilians by shooting through Palestinian civilians.

Now you may say "what if we juuuust gave Ukraine money?" well we literally just proved we couldn't. Humans decided to hold those humans hostage if we didnt help kill these other humans. The point is humans by and large reject solutions that help others for the sake of helping in and of itself, they always want a cut. If we could solve Ukraine being under seige, we should have, but we didn't. We never do.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

But why would that be part of the problem of Russia invading? That sounds like it's causing a different problem. I'd agree that all solutions have side effect problems, but that doesn't mean we can't solve problems. The side effects can be isolated and if well considered will be less severe than the problem they address.

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