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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by iso@lemy.lol to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 

Donationware: you must donate to use it. Not like regular optional donates.

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[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I paid for "premium" boost fpr lemmy and it was 100% worth it. I didn't had too but having lemmy on boost made me forget about reddit.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Boost is Freemium software.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (3 children)

One of my favorite programs was acting up, so I went to reinstall. Turned out this program that has been free for a decade, now wants $29 a month, to let me pirate movies. Da fuck? What a way to shit the bed, to offer the same free program but charge for it out of nowhere

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 78 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If anyone actually pays $29 a month to watch movies illegally modern streaming services have truly reached a new low

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's was bittorrent. they went with a paid, tiered model now. They want me to pay to use a torrent client to pirate stuff, it's ridiculous

[–] CurbsTickle@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I had no idea as I've been using it for years and it was just there. I switched to q

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago

I mean, that's cheaper than having three or four subscriptions to cover at least the basic catalog.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

now whatever you do, don't steal it

also doublecheck you aren't on a scam site or that the product hasn't forked ;)

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[–] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 8 months ago

I think pay what you can/want is a great concept, but calling it donation is kinda misleading

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Just about every instance of this, you can donate $0...

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's the true definition of donationware.
If you're being forced to "donate" any amount of money upfront to use the software, it's no longer donationware, it's literally just paidware. Even if the source code is available elsewhere under a FOSS license, that specific copy is by definition paidware.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Escortware. You're not paying for the software, you're paying for the time you're using the software.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that essentially software as a service?

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Arrest creative cloud for prostitution. All those people are paying to get fucked.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

chef's kiss

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[–] maggio@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 8 months ago (25 children)

Any real-life example of anyone doing this?

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

FairEmail is a privacy oriented email app on fdroid which uses donation to activate pro features. €0.10 to activate one time and €7.50 for unlimited future devices. I think it's a pretty fair deal.
https://email.faircode.eu/donate/

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

It's a fair deal, but the point is it's not a donation. You can purchase pro features, and that's great. But it's not a donation if you get a product in return, that's just a purchase.

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[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Voicemeeter did that too.

But honestly i don't really see what's wrong. There's a base donation for the price of the software but it just give the option to support the dev if you want...

I mean most things that rely on donation like that are just cheap indie software (I think voicemeeter was $5)

I'd take that over the awful and greedy subscriptions that cost an arm like adobe or Microsoft.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 8 months ago
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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I find it funny how the word retard has become a slur but the implication that something is retarded is still acceptable

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Turns out there's a difference between insulting a person and disparaging an inanimate thing.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Do y'all remember Wanda Sykes doing commercials about stuff being called gay and how it was offensive?

This is basically the same thing but with retard instead of gay.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I don't like either and have been mobbed over my opinion, despite being a caregiver for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

One of the reasons I speak up as a caregiver is I have known ASD 1 people who admitted that it bothers them that people use that term, but they feel like they can't make the argument themselves. Because they're disabled.

Out of touch assholes are the only ones still dug in over this.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that you've been mobbed for sharing this view. That's shitty.

I feel like ableism, especially against people with intellectual and personality disability, is the one sphere where nobody seems to take the objections of the targeted group seriously, and simultaneously dismiss people speaking up for the targeted group for being "virtue signalers" or as whiners. So it's like the only solution is to just not say anything.

(Tangential but I have similar feelings about people calling others narcissists and attacking them for it, though I don't feel like that is going to change anytime soon. Still, if the person targeted is actually a narcissist, then I feel like it's bad to attack them for a diagnosis and symptoms they have no control over. And if they aren't actually a narcissist, then why further stigmatize people with narcissism? It's more complicated than the r-slur since abuse by narcissists happens and victims shouldn't feel restricted from sharing their experiences accurately, but similar in how it's disproportionately used to disparage and nobody takes objections to that usage seriously.)

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean I'm autistic and adhd. I've been called retarded pretty much my whole life. To me it's like the nword at this point. The only difference is I'm not black so I'm not gonna be throwing that around.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure you were downvoted by someone angry that you referenced the nword, even though you were literally equating the use of the word as a slur to your own experience. Which is a bummer, because as a neurologically atypical person, it can be difficult even to speak out to address your own lived experience, and can also be difficult to know what to say to have neurologically typical people grasp what you're trying to express.

Which demonstrates why I bitch about people using the word "retarded" as an insult. When people with that lived experience do speak up, sometimes it can be difficult to make the point you're making in a way the greater population understands and BAM! Now you've pissed off everyone!

It's so ridiculous to me that there are people out there so proud, so attached to the words they use as insults that having someone else say, "You might be hurting someone other than the person you intend with that word, could you maybe pick another one?" outrages them.

And, let me just say, if you're too dim-witted to think up a better, more appropriate insult, you might be as stupid as the people you're trying to insult.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can literally donate 1ct. I have no idea how people can complain when developers want money for their work.

The "Linux community" is 80% users that dont contribute, 10% "powerusers" that still dont contribute, 5% people that help with nondevelopment work (bug reporting, community support, etc.) and 5% actual developers.

(Completely rough estimation)

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[–] Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Randsomeware

You must pay to use your own software

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I hear you. I think it's just exceedingly rare. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just think giving it a name is a little strange given how unbelievably rare it is. But, you got to start somewhere! So, I digress. I guess, here it is. 🤷‍♂️

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

You have no idea how deep the -ware rabbit hole goes.

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[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

In a lot of religious areas, you're not allowed to buy religious iconography.

But if you make a set-price donation, they'll give you religious iconography as a completely unrelated gift to recognize your piety.

[–] leamaya@feddit.de 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There is also software that you could compile from source yourself but the binaries are locked behind a donation. Are those also donationware?

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

Theres also software you can download for free, but you gotta pay for the password to unlock the rar file...

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[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Where the fuck did you get this definition from?

If I remember correctly vim is charityware and is entirely free, I only found out about the charity part on accident.

[–] iso@lemy.lol 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree this is bullshit, especially the donation for activation code.

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[–] Doods@infosec.pub 12 points 8 months ago

English people on their way to ruin the meaning of every word.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

In English, the correct meaning of words is always optional. The language is fluid, literally anything can be a euphemism; idk if that's also the case in other languages but it regularly trips up even native speakers.

Even so, even with that much flexibility built into the language, this is still just malignant, cynical, toxic lying of the worst sort.

[–] Hundun@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hey what if my software is paid, but you can purchase it for N money or more, with an input field?

Because that I've seen a lot, and it sounds suspiciously like what you're describing, yet completely normal.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What like itch.io? Hard disagree

[–] butter@midwest.social 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Itch is free, with optional donations.

Donationware is "Please donate to continue"

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