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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago (10 children)

In which case would a competent dev use an LLM?

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

It's outstanding at bridging the gap between "I need to mash these two concepts/technologies together" and "the answer is spread across six different StackOverflow threads." Hunting that stuff down using Google has been a delicate operation even at the best of times in the last 25 years, but it always took a lot of time. With an LLM and each such query, I've saved hours, maybe even whole workdays. Fact-checking an AI takes far less effort.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When the documentation is shit and you do not have time to scroll through 100 classes to find that one optional argument that one method accepts, I found LLMs very useful. They are pretty good at text understanding and summarizing, not so much at logic though, which is key for developing.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When Management™️ demands the app "Do AI" because "it's the hot new thing"

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Manglement will have to fill an open position real soon

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

If you need to use a new language that you are not yet used to, it can get you through the basics quite efficiently.

I find it quite proficient at translating complex mathematical functions into code. Specially since it accept the latex pretty print as input and usually read it correctly.

As an advanced rubber duck that spits wrong answers so your brain can achieve the right answer quickly. A lot of the times I find myself blocked on something, ask the AI to solve and it gives me a ridiculous response that would never work, but seeing how that won't work it makes easier for me how to make something that will work.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Looking up how to do something, as an improved stackoverflow. Especially if it provides sources in the answer.

Boilerplate unit tests. Yes, yes, I know - use parametrized test, but it's often not practical.

Mass refactoring. This is tricky because you need to thoroughly review it, but it saves you annoying typing.

I'm sure there's more, it's far from useless. But you need to know what you want it to do and how to check if done correctly.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Boilerplate unit tests.

It will generate bad tests, so you will have lots of tests blocking your work, but won't actually test the important properties.

Mass refactoring.

That's an amount of trust in the LLM capacity to not create hidden corner cases and your capacity to review large-scale changes that... I find your complete faith disturbing.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like it ships it to production. You can read code it writes and modify it if you don't like it, or choose not to use it.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you can read the code it writes and modify it, a project manager can remove that time from you and take the AI slop direct to production.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Another good reason to never let the company's project become your project.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 23 hours ago

That's a different problem. The original question was when would a competent dev use an LLM.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As always, the specific situation matters. Some refactors are mostly formulaic, and AI does great at that. For example, “add/change this database field, update the form, then update the api, update the admin page, update the ui, etc.” is perfectly reasonable to send an AI off to do, and can save plenty of programmer time.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until you don't properly check the diff, a +/- or </=/>/<=/>= was reversed, and you now have an RCE in test, soon to be in prod.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What kind of moron doesn’t check the diff? Plus, modern AI coding tools explicitly show the diff and ask you to confirm each edit directly.

I wouldn’t let a human muck about in my code unchecked, much less an AI. But that doesn’t mean it’s useless.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

I very rarely find result summarizers useful. If I didn't find something normally, there won't be anything in there.

I sure love tests and huge codebases with errors in them. In the time I read and understood an LLM's output, I could write it myself. And save on time later when expanding/debugging.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I am so far from trusting and LLM to do mass refactoring even with heavy review. Refactoring bugs can be super insidious.

I use it daily. I wouldn't blindly trust code it writes, but it offers alternative solutions and when I'm hunting for a but it's very good at giving me ideas of what might be wrong at a glance. Terraform and infra too it can catch nuances i may be missing.

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finding logic errors 7 hours into the workday.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

False logic errors created by the AI while asking it to solve real world logic errors?

No, plain old human made ones.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I asked it to translate all my string to another language. So I guess i18n support. It's decent.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you are sure it's not spewing hallucinations or neo-fascism in a language you don't understand... why?

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

You should try using an LLM to translate things. It's wctually pretty good compared to more traditional translators. I think translation is actually an area LLMs excels in.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I have to, for my KPIs! I guess job interviews are the real personal performance meetings though.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 day ago

Do quickly write the same pattern thousands of people write every day