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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Looking up how to do something, as an improved stackoverflow. Especially if it provides sources in the answer.

Boilerplate unit tests. Yes, yes, I know - use parametrized test, but it's often not practical.

Mass refactoring. This is tricky because you need to thoroughly review it, but it saves you annoying typing.

I'm sure there's more, it's far from useless. But you need to know what you want it to do and how to check if done correctly.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Boilerplate unit tests.

It will generate bad tests, so you will have lots of tests blocking your work, but won't actually test the important properties.

Mass refactoring.

That's an amount of trust in the LLM capacity to not create hidden corner cases and your capacity to review large-scale changes that... I find your complete faith disturbing.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like it ships it to production. You can read code it writes and modify it if you don't like it, or choose not to use it.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you can read the code it writes and modify it, a project manager can remove that time from you and take the AI slop direct to production.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Another good reason to never let the company's project become your project.

That's a different problem. The original question was when would a competent dev use an LLM.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As always, the specific situation matters. Some refactors are mostly formulaic, and AI does great at that. For example, “add/change this database field, update the form, then update the api, update the admin page, update the ui, etc.” is perfectly reasonable to send an AI off to do, and can save plenty of programmer time.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Until you don't properly check the diff, a +/- or </=/>/<=/>= was reversed, and you now have an RCE in test, soon to be in prod.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

What kind of moron doesn’t check the diff? Plus, modern AI coding tools explicitly show the diff and ask you to confirm each edit directly.

I wouldn’t let a human muck about in my code unchecked, much less an AI. But that doesn’t mean it’s useless.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago

I very rarely find result summarizers useful. If I didn't find something normally, there won't be anything in there.

I sure love tests and huge codebases with errors in them. In the time I read and understood an LLM's output, I could write it myself. And save on time later when expanding/debugging.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I am so far from trusting and LLM to do mass refactoring even with heavy review. Refactoring bugs can be super insidious.