Edit: Actually yes, both this and the healthcare need to be free - otherwise you're grossly misunderstanding one of the key parts of the mission of open source. I pay for this so that whoever can't afford it can access for exactly zero. Same for the healthcare - you might say it's "not free" and everyone should contribute but what to you or me is nothing, could mean that grandma doesn't get to eat. So yeah, free access needs to be a possibility. That's the mission. I contribute to open source software and donate where I can so others who don't have the knowledge or money can access it for free. There can't be a price.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My computer isn't free, nor is my internet connection, nor is my electricity.

When did I call Google searches "free"?

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Exhausting. If you don't consider anything in the world is free, why did you bother saying Lemmy isn't free?

Plus this argument is rubbish, it's like saying "my car isn't free, nor is the road, nor is my petrol, so the beach isn't free".

Just because you have to buy clothes to go out for a walk, it doesn't make it any less free.

What are you trying to argue here? That the term "free" shouldn't exist because in a capitalist society everything has dependencies? (I still don't get how that relates to my original post which was purely about doing business with corporations).

Then fine, Lemmy isn't free, neither is the sun, or going for a walk. You win. Good day sir.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You really only think in black and white, huh?

Sad.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I do. I'm totally the one who can't understand that "free" is a nuanced concept and something can be free when there are costs but they are externalised.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And yet you can't fathom the difference between hosting and maintaining something, versus consuming something.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Enlighten me, why do you think I can't tell the difference? Is it because as a maintainer I want to provide something for free? Do you see "consumers" of free content as leeches?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because you think hosting Lemmy yourself is the same monetary cost as doing a Google search.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're funny. 😂 What I actually think is that your mind reading skills are terrible because I never said anything even remotely similar to that.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't run it on a raspberry pi, run it on the same computer you use to access the Google search you are happy to call "free".

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I (rather obviously) am talking there about the Google search service, not a single query, as Google doesn't disappear after a single query.

I'm not sure what you're pointing at though? Surely hosting Google search is more expensive than hosting Lemmy when you're insinuating otherwise?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Surely hosting Google search is more expensive than hosting Lemmy when you're insinuating otherwise?

You've got it backwards.

How do I host Lemmy on my iPhone? How do I host it on a Library computer?

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can host lemmy on an Android phone but not on an iPhone, which is pretty locked down - you'd have to convince Tim Cook to open the OS.

You can install it fairly easily on a library computer as long as you get permission from the library. You can't install things on computers you don't have admin rights to; other examples of computers you can't use to host Lemmy are an ATM on the street, a self checkout machine at the supermarket, or the cockpit computer of an Airbus A350.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago

So I'd have to spend money on additional equipment, is what you're saying.

Which is not true of using Google.

Get it yet?