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[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I do. I'm totally the one who can't understand that "free" is a nuanced concept and something can be free when there are costs but they are externalised.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And yet you can't fathom the difference between hosting and maintaining something, versus consuming something.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Enlighten me, why do you think I can't tell the difference? Is it because as a maintainer I want to provide something for free? Do you see "consumers" of free content as leeches?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Because you think hosting Lemmy yourself is the same monetary cost as doing a Google search.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You're funny. 😂 What I actually think is that your mind reading skills are terrible because I never said anything even remotely similar to that.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't run it on a raspberry pi, run it on the same computer you use to access the Google search you are happy to call "free".

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I (rather obviously) am talking there about the Google search service, not a single query, as Google doesn't disappear after a single query.

I'm not sure what you're pointing at though? Surely hosting Google search is more expensive than hosting Lemmy when you're insinuating otherwise?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Surely hosting Google search is more expensive than hosting Lemmy when you're insinuating otherwise?

You've got it backwards.

How do I host Lemmy on my iPhone? How do I host it on a Library computer?

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You can host lemmy on an Android phone but not on an iPhone, which is pretty locked down - you'd have to convince Tim Cook to open the OS.

You can install it fairly easily on a library computer as long as you get permission from the library. You can't install things on computers you don't have admin rights to; other examples of computers you can't use to host Lemmy are an ATM on the street, a self checkout machine at the supermarket, or the cockpit computer of an Airbus A350.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So I'd have to spend money on additional equipment, is what you're saying.

Which is not true of using Google.

Get it yet?

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

You're still missing the point, you're comparing hosting vs using.

If you wanted to host Google, you'd have to spend a fuckton of money on servers. If you want to host Lemmy, it's unfortunate that you don't own a computer (this puts things into perspective) but the requirements are absolutely minimal.

If you want to use Google, you have to pay the same as for using Lemmy, or searxNG, zero. However with Google you will pay with your data, whereas with SearxNG you have the option to donate, and the option to self host, if you choose. You don't have the option to self-host something like Google unless your last name is something like Bezos.