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    [–] menemen@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    We have ISO standards. Fuck every single company that ignores those (Microsoft, Apple, ...).

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    And fuck ISO for charging so much for access to them.

    [–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    As an engineer: 1000% agree.

    Seriously, why do I have to pay a value somewhere close to Β£1000 for a set of FUCKING PDFs?!?

    This is ridiculous. Make money from audits, certifications, training, and conferences. You can still make absolute stacks from those. Why the fuck do I or my company need to shell out thousands just so we know what to certify against to be able to sell stuff?!

    It's a fucking racquet and they know it. But it's either one of 3 options:

    • Find someone who's willing to send you the PDF or log in credentials for a library service that has access to these standards.

    • Take the risk downloading PDFs from dodgy sites you found on the 5th page of duckduckgo.

    • Bend over and spread open your wallet. Because good luck getting anything delivered to a customer without it.

    [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Why is there not a Libgen or sci hub for these?

    [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

    There should be a libgen, sci-hub, internet archive, and a massive torrent of ISO standards. Standards aren't great if they are gate kept by money. Now someone will reinvent it without a profit motive, and there's 2 standards.

    [–] menemen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Around here most companies just have subscriptions or get to them through university libraries. It is still annoying, I aggree. It is funnier once you realize that they completly rely on free work as well.

    That said, standards are imo one of the greatest t achievements of humanity. And if you'll ever be involved in that process, you'll quickly see why this whole thing is expensive.

    If you don't want to pay that much, don't curse at ISO, put pressure on your government to provide it for free. Imo well invested tax money.

    My personal main problem is that companies sometimes infiltrate the process.