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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Alright so hold on, USAID is not equipped to stop the Israeli military. So that's right out. And the vaccination ruse was a CIA operation.

It is interesting to see that USAID has an office meant to react to rapidly changing political situations. But there are several things about the Cuban Internet story. First, obviously it's not torture and similar stupid stuff. Second, from the article it looks like it was never properly authorized and was beyond what USAID is meant to do.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The point I was illustrating is that USAID is and always was a tool of the CIA.

USAID is absolutely equipped to tell the Israeli military "We're not going to give you one of our trucks and a landing pad for a blackhawk at our pier".

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How are they equipped to do that? Are you going to stand there in the way of an army with your clipboard?

And I'm sorry but Internet access and social media doesn't evoke scary secret agent the way you're trying to use it. At best it's the furthest extent of soft power, which is USAID's purpose. At worst it's an unsanctioned covert program that got shut down and swept under the rug.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they are equipped to not hand over their resources. They're also equipped to not lie and cover it up afterwords.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Okay so a few things here. USAID wasn't even on that side of the delivery system, that was WFP. Far from covering it up, the raid was headline news and is covered in an OIG report on the pier. Finally, USAID is not a military organization. If a military unit lands near them and demands a truck they are going to hand it over. They do not possess weapons or training. This entire line of argument is ridiculous.

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Wow, you really shot yourself in the foot there

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The entire Western world maintains that he won that election. So we're going to disagree on that right away. Then if you read what it was for it's literally aid funds not weapons or such. Then it's not even flowing through Guaido, but local NGOs instead.

You may want to read the articles you use as sources before using them.

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 0 points 33 minutes ago

Guaido boycotted the election btw and declared himself the winner with no votes

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, you're a neoliberal, that explains a lot. I guess you wont care about any actions that override another countries Democratic process when its funneled through NGOs or provides America a strategic advantage.

Condescending conservatives who are naive enough to take the most milquetoast yahoo news explanation at face value are not going to be worth discussion, because yalls politics actually align with USAids mission plan.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wow that's quite a leap. You're the one who brought a Yahoo news article to the discussion. Now it's not to be trusted? So bring one you do trust. And the entire point is that we are trying to respect the democratic process in Venezuela. Saying I have the army so I win is not a democratic process.

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 0 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Lets put it this way, If yahoo admits USAID is leveraging its funding to support a coup, it certainly is. The media all has a bias, whether its ap or BBC or aljazeera. I dont consume any of them uncritically.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Sure, except the article didn't say that.