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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 59 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You guys are still putting PFAS in your food?

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's nonstick without pfas. Does it have other chems we have no idea about? Probably. But not pfas.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 22 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Non stick isn't even good for cooking, get a nice stainless steel pan and see how much better food tastes

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have never once cooked with a stainless steel pan and not had the food stick like crazy. Dump as much vegetable oil as you want in, let it heat up as much as you want, that tofu is sticking to the pan and getting ruined in stainless steel. I'm convinced that people who swear by stainless only ever cook meat.

[–] cashew@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I cook vegetable dishes all the time in stainless steel. Works fine. It all comes down to technique and heat control.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Never had such a problem, even scrambled egg and the pan looks like new after

Never tried vegetable oil though

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What oil are you using? Olive sticks even worse in my experience

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

50/50 mix of olive oil and butter

Or 1:12 mix of sesame oil and peanut oil

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think you've misspelled cast iron. Or maybe carbon steel?

I do want some stainless skillets, but specifically to stick fond in from meat searing, not to replace nonstick. It's for actually the opposite purpose.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Cast iron is fine. Carbon steel and stainless steel are much of a muchness. Stainless is easier to maintain

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Any of the above, just a hell of a lot easier to clean stainless. A little water and it's like new

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What now? Of all the things stainless excels at, cleaning certainly isn't one of them. Much easier to clean a nonstick or iron pan. The nice thing about stainless is you can use aggressive scouring pads or barkeepers friend etc to go to town on them at least, but stainless excels at adhesion and heat distribution and makes for a tougher cleanup.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I have been cooking on stainless for over a decade, if it's sticking or tough to clean you've done something wrong

Check the pan surface, it needs to be clean and smooth when starting, heat marks are good

When starting, don't add food till it's hot

Never use scouring pads, it'll create grooves in the surface that make food stick

Barkeepers friend is fine but a freshly polished pan will stick at first

Anything stuck to a stainless steel pan will come off with water, if it doesn't you probably cooked too hot

[–] cashew@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You are absolutely correct. I have no idea where all of this animosity towards stainless steel cookware is coming from. It's an absolute workhorse and doesn't need princess treatment like cast iron or carbon steel.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't know.

(But I'd like to know :( )

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Switching to stainless has been great. If something sticks I can just scrape it off and then add a little more oil to prevent a repeat. I'm not sure why non-stick pans even became popular. I guess probably the low-fat fad had something to do with it.

[–] Zpiritual@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Non-stick is used as a crutch by people since you don't need to know the proper temperature to cook at or basic simple prep before cooking. That's the only reason I've been able to figure out.

I cook in enameled, stainless, cast iron and carbon steel pans all the time and food will stick if you put it in cold or with the pan is too cold or too hot, too little fat.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But like, even if it sticks I can just go at it with my steel spatula and it's fine.

I guess some people just don't want cooking to be an involved process. Stainless isn't necessarily a "set it and forget it" way of cooking.

[–] Zpiritual@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

For sure, it's not really a problem and often is a feature that release a bunch of great flavour when deglazed and such. But then you'd have to be bothered learning that basic skill. And learning stuff is considered hard for some reason.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It doesn't even taste good! I fully understand cooking unhealthy food for the sheer joy of eating it, but low-fat PFAS garbage is missing one of the most important flavors of our pallet. I spent so many years thinking I didn't like vegetables lol

Today I broiled broccoli, carrots, onions, bell peppers, peas, and garlic in oil and sweet chili on a stainless pan. 🤤

[–] Szyler@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

It's not unhealthy until you add sugar to give the good a resemblance of good taste after removing the fat.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

Lmao here we go again

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Carbon steel is acceptable as well.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Carbon steel is much better for non sick, a well seasoned carbon steel can be as non sick as a non stick pan.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I'd put mine up against any nonstick pan.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the other chemicals are always going to be plastic, just under a different name

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I hate to be the acktually guy, but acktually, there's pocketed carbon hex steel and titanium interior. Both are not plastic and have non stick properties without any forever chemicals. Also there's ceramic but requires wooden utensils and lower temps to keep it that way.

And then there's seasoned cast iron which can be non stick if you properly maintain the seasoning. Stainless steel can be non stick at the right temperature and oil. But it takes temperature control.

There are options and none of them requires pfas or plastic.