Seagal has been accused by former stunt performers who have worked with him, including Kane Hodder, Stephen Quadros, and Gene LeBell, of intentionally hitting stuntmen during scenes. Additionally, while serving as stunt coordinator for Out for Justice, LeBell allegedly got into an on-set altercation with Seagal over his mistreatment of some of the film's stunt performers. After the actor claimed that, due to his aikido training, he was "immune" to being choked unconscious, LeBell offered Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels. Seagal bodyguard and stuntman Steven Lambert stated he was present and said that a confrontation did happen, during which Seagal elbowed LeBell before he could lock the hold on Seagal, after which LeBell flipped Seagal.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 76 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A movie producer I worked with in my time in the industry had done a movie with Segal in which Segal was to shoot a gun. Segal said he would only use a very specifically modified AR15. The production purchased the AR with all of the upgrades Segal requested. Segal fired it one time, said it was too loud and had too much kickback and he wanted to use a prop instead.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago (32 children)

He said an AR-15 had too much recoil? Is he made of tissue paper, or did they mod it to fire artillery shells? Christ, one of the demos they did for us at our first live fire in basic training was having one of our fellow soldiers hold an M-16 stock UP TO HIS NUTS and fire it downrange to show just how little recoil they had. I'm not kidding, I personally witnessed this. I have also put at least 20,000 rounds through M-16's and AR-15's in my life. They don't kick. Seagal is a pussy.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I was trained with the H&K G3 with a slide stock. It's 7.62 and when I tried a 5.56 for the first time (a Swedish AK-5)I literally had to check to see if it did indeed shoot. There was no recoil from the 5.56. Never tried a M-16 apart from checking out the M-4 that the Rangers my squad was seconded to had (I was Norwegian Combat Engineer), no way that can kick to much.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

M-4 / M-16 same difference. Unless it's chambered in something other than 5.56 they all shoot the same. And yeah, it's nothing like 7.62. As you are aware... you KNOW it when you're firing 7.62!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

x39 is slightly more kick than 556, unless you're talking x51, then sure.

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Do you know what happened to the gun afterwards?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 days ago

The producer has it.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

He ate it, from what it looks like.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol imagine thinking that aikido training means your brain doesn't need oxygen.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago

Well, I would have guessed that less brain needs less oxygen, but I'm clearly wrong.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm just using your story as an excuse to promote Bobby Fingers. Check out a diorama on the confrontation.

https://youtu.be/3aCMTpJx2cs

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

You can not go wrong with Bobby Fingers.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I'm glad you did. What craftsmanship!

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Lost a scuffle to avoid getting choked, gets choked anyway. Shit self in the process. Classic Seagal.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's truly a gem of a story. I can only hope Seagal thinks of it frequently, and has yet to accept himself and heal.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

On the other hand, when Seagal was asked about the incident, he directly denied the allegations, calling LeBell a "sick, pathological scumbag liar", and offered the name of a witness who could prove LeBell had fabricated the entire story. The claim garnered a heated response from LeBell's trainee Ronda Rousey, who said that Seagal was the one lying, and declared "If [Seagal] says anything bad about Gene to my face, I'd make him crap his pants a second time."

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 days ago

I love this. If it were a lie, I'm certain he'd sue them for defamation. Honestly, they probably should have sued him for calling them liars. Make him go to court over it and get it all documented. That would be the funniest thing to happen.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Rereading this makes me want to hug someone. It's like a blanket straight from the dryer. Thank you

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Based on the picture it looks like he vowed to never take another shit for the rest of his life.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

The champion of No Shit September.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Haha oh wow... He not only failed to stay concious, but also shit himself in front of everyone. I love that for him.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Honestly, they both come across as Dumb & Dumber. LeBell surely didn't have to actually prove such claim, but he still wanted to put Seagal to sleep, which could have ended in Seagal's death. It's literally a Jackass situation.

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