If the Nazis had legitimate grievances against the Polish? Maybe. Your premise is flawed in that it assumes everything a Palestinian resistance fighter does is terrorism that can't ve glorified. Let me flip your question around: Woud you object to an Irish-made game that allows you to play as the IRA and car bomb the British?

[+] CerealKiller01@lemmy.world -7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

If the Nazis had legitimate grievances against the Polish? Maybe.

Who decides what's "legitimate"?

Parts of Poland belonged to the second Reich, but were taken away by force in the aftermath of WWI. From the Nazi perspective, they had every right to claim them back.

Edit: Wait, what just happened? Did you actually say saying you'd be okay with a game glorifying the Nazi invasion to Poland if they "had legitimate grievances against the Polish"? WTF?

Your premise is flawed in that it assumes everything a Palestinian resistance fighter does is terrorism that can’t ve glorified.

My premise assumes that every Hamas fighter that crossed into Israel on Oct. 7th is a terrorist. The "resistance fighters" that attacked military bases are the same people who raped party goers, burned to death civilians in their homes and kidnapped men, women, children and the elderly to be used as a bargaining chip and human shields.

Would I be for a ban of Fatah fighters attacking IDF bases? Maybe, maybe not. I probably wouldn't argue over it with strangers on the internet, for what that's worth.

Would you object to an Irish-made game that allows you to play as the IRA and car bomb the British?

Depends. is it called "Knights of the IRA" or glorify the IRA in any way? Then I would support the ban. Because the they were a terrorist movement that targeted civilians. Why would you even ask that? Are you seriously okay with glorifying terrorists if you happen to agree with their goals?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago

Who decides what's "legitimate"?

Ooh! I know this one! It's the people with all the money, isn't it? It's usually the people with the most money who decide these things.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Edit: Wait, what just happened? Did you actually say saying you'd be okay with a game glorifying the Nazi invasion to Poland if they "had legitimate grievances against the Polish"? WTF?

I mean depends on those specific grievances by the hypothetical Nazis, yes, because then they wouldn't be Nazis as we know them.

My premise assumes that every Hamas fighter that crossed into Israel on Oct. 7th is a terrorist.

You'll need a source for that.

Because the they were a terrorist movement that targeted civilians. Why would you even ask that? Are you seriously okay with glorifying terrorists if you happen to agree with their goals?

Your terrorist is someone else's freedom fighter. Nelson Mandela was listed as a terrorist in the US until the 2000s. "Terrorist" isn't a bad word that makes a whole organization irredeemable human scum, and considering the IRA's contribution to North Irish liberation, I'd say the answer is yes. "Terrorists" are people you can love or hate depending on their specific actions and goals.

[–] CerealKiller01@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You just said you'd be okay with glorification of "theoretical" Nazis, but not if they hadn't committed multiple war crimes, countless atrocities, murdering and incarcerating people based on mental health, ethnicity and sexual orientation. No, the thing you're most with is that they didn't have a good enough reason to invade Poland.

I lost interest in talking to you.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

I was obviously (okay maybe not very obviously) talking within the context of their invasion of Poland. Anyway Nazis didn't have legitimate grievances with anyone they targeted (because they targeted whole ethnic groups), which is part of why they're hated so much and what illegitimizes the comparison between them and insert your hated organization of choice here.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This game was published before that oct 7 issue. It's not related.

[–] CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, come on...

From the link: "Video game available on Steam allows players to simulate being a Hamas teroist who k*lls Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem while shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’” the account posted. In November, Nijm released an update called the “Operation al-Aqsa Flood Update,” which alludes to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel by having Palestinian fighters paragliding into an Israeli military base."