Also, I really feel the need to point out: pasteurizing isn't what makes the milk less tasty. Homogenization is what skims the fat and makes it into bland watery (and profitable) Supermarket milk.

But ironically, boiling milk is FAR worse for all the vitamins than pasteurizing it. Boiled raw milk is less nutritious for you than Supermarket milk, especially since supermarket milk is often fortified back to its original levels or beyond. It IS tastier though, but pasteurized unhomogenized milk does exist, which is great because it tastes like a desert, AND won't kill you.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Never tasted a desert, might try that

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Keep water handy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have, it's overrated.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's a bit dry.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Homogenization doesn't skim the fat. It breaks the fat globules up into very small particles that form a stable emulsion that doesn't separate. All they do is pass it through a high pressure nozzle.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, but generally they ALSO skim the fat right before/during. You don't have to though

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Have you ever heard of “whole milk”?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

"whole milk" is often skimmed, or occasionally, added to to make it fit in a certain legally defined bandwidth of fat content. It's not unmodified.

Also, homogenization absolutely changes the texture of the milk. That is in fact part of the point, making sure nobody gets the crappy milk. Some people prefer it, some don't, it's a personal taste thing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Whole milk doesn't mean "all of the milk fat". I believe it's something like 3.25%.

Are you thinking of heavy cream?

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fat content depends on the cow milked. Jersey cows can have up to 4% fat

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Right, and at least in the US, I believe "whole milk" is a very specific definition, so the fat content has to be altered to match that.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That percentage value is the total fat content of the milk, not relative to unmodified milk. No cow puts out pure fat.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but "whole milk" (at least in the US) has to fit a specific definition re: fat contents. So they do have to skim it.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, sure, they skim it. But your original comment was worded a bit badly, the way I read it implied that whole milk contains 3.25% of all the fat that it should if it was truly whole, rather than that it contains 3.25% whereas true whole milk is just slightly more. Some people do believe that whole milk is actually 100% fat which is why I thought it best to correct you.

I do wonder why they have such a precise requirement for whole milk in the US. Where I live, most whole milk sold is roughly 3.5 to 3.8 percent, and often they actually give a range instead of an exact value on the package. I could buy a carton of milk that says "3.8% to 4.4%" if I wanted to. My personal preference is "whatever's cheaper, but if whole milk isn't much more expensive, go for whole". Usually I use it in food rather than drinking it straight so the flavor doesn't matter as much to me.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh no, yeah totally. I definitely just misspoke in my original comment, and instead of simply correcting it, I've been doubling down and twisting it so it seems like I was right and that's what I meant the whole time. That's definitely what I was just doing lol.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

So what you're telling me is: 'no homo'?

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

skimmed milk for life

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Be nice to skimmed milk drinking cryptids. They happily subsist on the waste product of butter making and reduce competing demand for the full-fat milk product you enjoy.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

We could use the skim milk for flushing toilets and washing cars. We needn’t shackle ourselves to these mutants forever.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can throw that tag on me too lol, skim milk is best milk

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Y'all are cuckoo bananas, imho.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was raised on skim milk, thanks to my mother who was constantly dieting throughout my childhood. 2% milk tastes like liquid ice cream to me. Skim is much more refreshing.

Also, it was fun to freak out my friends by hydrating with milk after exercising. Skim milk is mostly water anyway.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yock

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

The term that people should look out for is "creamline" or "cream-top" milk. It's whole milk that is unhomogenized. It basically separates in the bottle, so there's a layer of cream floating on top of skim.

I couldn't say for sure, but I've heard it's better for making cheese/yogurt/etc.

Personally, I wouldn't buy it just for drinking cause I don't think it lasts as long.