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Hey wake up, an ignorant wasp is once again trivializing the threat of nuclear holocaust.
Last I checked it was NATO that started launching missiles into Russia escalating the conflict, but do go on champ.
I suppose it’s also NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place?
No, Putin woke up one day and felt like doing a little "full-scale" invasion.
As a treat
Yes lmao, if they didn't ignore the minsk agreements and do a coup (maidan) to install a CIA handpicked government, this would not have happened.
Yes.
Pretty much, yes. If one great power keeps threatening and encroaching on another and undermines all attempts at diplomacy, it's pretty obvious what is going to happen.
Yes, as many western experts explained in great detail for many decades now. Yet, we still have ignoramuses running around pretending that's not the case. Even Stoltenberg has admitted this on record at this point, time to update your script
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm
He can get fucked.
It's really hard to tell why Russia might start swinging when the west not only breaks every treaty it's ever signed with it, but then has the gall to turn around and go "you can get fucked" right afterwards
nick, my dude. Save your sanity.
Most everyone here agrees that 'Y' sucks, and you can't reason with em
“We didn’t accept his demands for how we protect member states so he went to war” isn’t the defense you seem to think it is
One problem being that Ukraine isn't a member state. 🤡
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So which one is it?
Would you also say that North Korea is attacking Ukraine since it's North Korean artillery shells being lobbed into Ukraine?
What's the member state?
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer - Date: Sep 26, 2015
Watch this and think for yourself. A very similar comparison is Cuban Missile Crisis 1962.
Any time you end a thought with “so therefore threatening nuclear holocaust is justified” you’re the bad guys.
America, the only country ever to drop nukes on two cities full of people as a terror tactic, has a nuclear first strike policy and is therefore threatening the entire world with nuclear holocaust at all times. I agree, we're the bad guys.
During WWII, America shocked the world when they revealed their nuclear capacity by dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on strictly civilian targets. Since then, they have maintained a first strike policy, meaning, their plans for their nuclear arsenal are not defensive, but aggressive and the highest form of escalation.
During the Korean War, Dugless MacArthur asked the joint chiefs of staff for approval to use nuclear weapons on China, to the tune of 30, to 50 nuclear strikes. They approved. MacArthur's goal was to create a radioactive no-mans land across Russia and China to act as a buffer zone between after the war was "won".
During the JFK Administration, they drew up plans for nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union if conflict in Berlin turned violent.
The Nixon administration drew up plans to drop nuclear bombs on North Vietnam.
Just this week, news broke that the Biden administration is considering giving Ukraine nukes. "Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union." You'll tell me this is strictly defensive, then I beg you to consider reading why the Soviet Union was giving Cuba nuclear weapons during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The only place threatening a Nuclear Holocaust is the United States. They remain today the only country on earth to have dropped not one, but two atomic bombs on war targets (read civilian populations).
The fact that you don't understand how idiotic that statement is says volumes about you. Imagine for a second what would happened if Russia started lobbing missiles into Florida from Cuba. Oh wait, we don't have to imagine we know exactly what would happen. Killer clowns like you are gonna be the reason our civilization ends.
in this scenario, does florida invade cuba first?
Burgerland already occupies part of Cuban territory, so the invasion is just frozen at this point.
🤣
The USA literally has a torture camp in Cuba with admittedly innocent people being held for life.
I swear to god Americans know more about the Marvel movies than about their fucking state.
apologies for not exactly spelling it out for you - is the US actively bombing innocent cubans? I get it, there's a torture camp- wish it didn't exist. analogies don't have to be perfect.
You're literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.
Anyway, keep up the cope, gringo. Enjoy your cost of living crisis while yall froth at the mouth about Raytheon-appointed scapegoat.
you literally started it ¯_(ツ)_/¯ - apologies for not phrasing it properly, English is not my first language.
que miedo 😱
There is no threat at all, russia is just trying to bluff a stronger position ahead of inevitable negotiation rounds. To claim more benefits and more territory. They won't be doing anything against the US no matter what. Maximum cut some underwater cables and tell more nuclear threats like they always do.
What would we ever do without such stellar geopolitical analysis by geniuses such as yourself.