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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Soldiers knocking down doors to arrest millions of illegal aliens and everyone who looks like an illegal alien and shoving them into camps, what could go wrong?

[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think we will see that, but i do think we will see ice raids on businesses that tend to hire immigrants and fake crackdowns on paperwork that dramatically increases the time and hassle for everything, and weird pushes for all paperwork to be in English.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is literally what they're promising.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but so was build a wall. I really think/hope that there's too much infighting and shitslinging for them to follow through on much. They're good at blocking thanks, but not super great at passing things. Concepts of plans and all...

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Their wishes and promises are not the only thing involved here.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Women. Queer people. Non-white people. Hell, even white straight cis evangelical Christian rich men who die from being sick.

There will be so much death.

It will be unending.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That does not clarify anything.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How about the fact drill baby drill means seeing a 3 degree Celsius increase by 2100. That's the lifetime of many of the people in this earth. That kind of change will kill many ecosystems and make deserts out of a lot where we live and grow food. We know we can't stop going past 1.5 degrees now do to our slow changes. Instead we are hitting the gas pedal according to Trump. The oceans, plantlife on land, everything that consumes it is in jeopardy. Estimates are around 60% of animal populations have died off since the 70s. At some point you break the link in the food "chain" if you will, and larger masses die off, until it is unrecoverable.

"We can farm fish". <- We farm fish in the U.S. ship it to China to package and then ship it back to put it on our shelves. That's how wasteful we are.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You don't believe the animals are dying? Or that the temperature is rising, or that the oil companies research who agree are telling the truth? Exxon has been telling us this since the 1970s.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fucking hell I was asking for clarification.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I share your frustration. There are many narratives on Lemmy that you’re supposed to just know and parrot. Asking questions, even just for more information, is blasphemy. It’s plain pathetic.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If their questions were innocuous that's fine. Mine were as well. I presented a reasoning as to how millions will die as they asked. Then asked if there was part that they didn't believe in, and gave them a link to information about the subject. I didn't cuss, I didn't name call.

The person they are inquiring about is running on a campaign which has stated they will undo those environmental protections, and on the promise to "drill baby drill".

The cuss words came from them. (Fucking) And the name calling came from you (pathetic, which by the way, it's okay to be frustrated, I'm not upset with your guy's questions)

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

The problem is far beyond anything you did here. You engaged substantively more than others, so kudos - no need to defend your honor line by line :)

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I believe all of that is happening with or without the results of this election. Some problems are bigger than red vs blue. We are failing en toto on this one. True, the in-flight movie on the Trump plane to hell is suckier than the one on the Harris plane to hell, but they land in the same place.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’m not about to provide you with masturbation material.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

It doesn't clarify anything because so far I've been told

  1. People are going to die (I asked why)
  2. Those people are minorities (which doesn't say why they would die)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well la de da. Swish!

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love how you have downvotes for asking for clarification. As if asking for it is an argument deserving of downvotes.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A fellow Lemmit who enjoys split score totals!

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'll be here for long if it's just more groupthink similar to reddit. I like how Tildes works though. Everyone seems nicer too.

[–] Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

I think that the us perspective on politics is surprising self-centered. If millions will die remains to be seen, but an unpredictable us leadership will certainly shift power dynamics on an international scale. The trump administration might randomly decide to side with land grabbing dictators, might embolden Israel, or switch to Doge Coin as the main currency. Those things might not directly cause death, but will disrupt the world stage to a degree which might overpower currently stable institutions. Which in turn might lead to death and suffering as a consequence. I'm not trying to say that everything should remain as is. Things are awful in a lot of places, but one of the biggest and most powerful nations with a "leader" that might throw a world ending tantrum over a Twitter thread is nothing anybody, but the most nihilistic acclerationists want. Also Trump's plans to withdraw from climate change mitigation will certainly add to the pile of dead bodies which we will inherit in the next 50 year as a consequence of our actions today.