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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you explain how Whole Process People's Democracy is "top-down?" Further, can you explain why it's a good thing for Capitalists to control the press, and not the public? The inverse of public press is private press, and that means ownership by Capitalists and liberals. Surely it's better for the people to control the press, and not the bourgeoisie?

Further, can you explain how the government is "intransparent and oppressive by design?" Just because you don't speak mandarin doesn't mean the process is mystified and opaque for those who live in and contribute to said system.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you explain how Whole Process People’s Democracy is “top-down?”

Can you explain to me how it's not?

Further, can you explain why it’s a good thing for Capitalists to control the press, and not the public?

No, because it's not. Nice strawman. Is this public you speak of the government?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made the claim that the PRC is run from a top-down manner. If you can't substantiate claims you make, then don't make them.

Secondly, if the press is not publicly owned, then it becomes privately owned, and as such is subject to effortless bourgeois domination. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too in order to play the endless contrarion.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again you construe publicly owned and government-owned

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do not misconstrue anything, here. Public property is accomplished from within the ownership of government, a news organization being a worker coop doesn't mean it is immune to bourgeois influence.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

true, and a government being elected also doesn't make it immune to bourgeois influence, and especially not to influence from the politicians themselves

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Correct, which is why you need to understand that the class in power in the PRC is the proletariat and the party structure gains its legitimacy and power from the bottom-up.