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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One thing that is different is the lack of government-critical sources available from China, also Russia.

Do you speak Chinese or Russian?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, and that's a good point actually. Although I think the state of political opposition both in Russia and China speaks volumes.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This might be a hard pill to swallow, but Putin is largely popular among Russians for assisting with throwing out the Western Capitalists that bought the various slices of the former USSR after "Shock Doctrine" killed 7 million people with the re-introduction of Capitalism, and the CPC has an over 90% approval rate. Political opposition is largely limited because both governments have more support among their citizenry than Western governments do.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm actually really happy that you mentioned Shock Doctrine because last time I was arguing with a tankie they called Naomi Klein a US state sanctioned liberal :D

I already replied on another comment about the support

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Shock Doctrine is good theory regardless of whatever western brainworms reside in her. If people couldn't separate theory we'd have to throw the whole thing out with Marx's European brainworms.

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Even in the very beginning you see the Western brainworms dangled in your face, but there are good aspects to the book.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

yep <3

Unfortunately I've hat the displeasure of "conversing" with a few people who are unable to handle even that level of nuance

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Klein herself is fairly liberal, but the impact on the post-Soviet citizenry is apt. 7 million people died so that the West could profit.