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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

i think there's so much discourse about this since Latin men voted, on the whole, for trump. there is a non zero number of people who, if trump implements his border control plan, voted for their own deportation

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

also, white people dont own a monopoly on racism. some of the most racist people i know are also 'legal' immigrants of a minority population.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no one hates immigrants more than an immigrant who made it

i've heard that quote a few times. but i think it's on the whole sadder:

no one hates the poor more than a poor person who thinks they made it

[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is so true. I heard sooo many times from Latinos where I work after the first Trump election that they voted pro-Trump. The ones who are here who have managed to get citizenship look down on the ones who don’t have it. It’s like a flip of light switch.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Definitely the Republican mindset. I got mine, fuck everyone else!

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

20 years ago I read an article in the Atlantic or New Yorker or salon or something good and it was a Japanese American author talking about going home over Thanksgiving and how her family and relatives were super gung-ho about the, then new, anti-arab, thinly veiled "anti-terrorist" initiatives that Shrub's administration was ratcheting up after successfully getting the left to support The Patriot Act, which enshrined surveillance at a level that had never been tried before.

Anyway, the author then revealed that her grandmother had been sent to Internment camps in the 1940s in the US and her dad had been born there.

TLDR;racism overrides all rationality. If Japanese Americans who were interned as villains during WWII 100% due to pure racism can't understand that scapegoating a minority group only leads to bad things, then the broader public has no hope.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Please stop spreading misinformation.

A supermajority of Latino voters voted for Kamala, including a majority of Latino men specifically.

https://unidosus.org/press-releases/hispanic-voters-back-harris-over-trump-by-a-62-37-margin-cite-economic-concerns-as-top-priorities/

The only groups that supported Trump with a majority are white people.

White people are the problem, not Hispanic and black voters.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-06/how-5-key-demographic-groups-helped-trump-win-the-2024-election

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

didn't mean to spread any misinformation. i still see in what you've sent me that latin men lag behind latin women by a significant margin voting about evenly between trump and harris

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes majority was higher among women significantly.

More Latinos voted for Trump than in past elections.

I just keep seeing democrats trying to blame Latinos and blacks for their bad campaign.

Hope you’re having a good weekend 👍

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thanks. you too. i see the failures as being mostly relating to misunderestimating the power of the right wing propaganda machine, even as the world over has gotten more authoritarian

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The crazy thing about accusing Latinos of being sexist or racist is that Mexico currently has a female progressive president who is closer to Bernie than any other US politicians.

Trump was speaking to the economy, the thing that was highest priority for these voters. He may be lying his ass off, but he was talking about it. Meanwhile, Harris was talking about how happy she was to be supported by her 80 corporate CEO’s and going on and on about it being so exciting to have Dick and Liz Cheney’s support.

When Walz came into her campaign her lead skyrocketed, but then Kamala pivoted to the right, while Trump continued to talk about the economy. Bad move on her part.