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Peanut, who has amassed more than half a million Instagram followers, was euthanized by officials to be tested for rabies.

Peanut, the Instagram-famous squirrel that was seized from its owner's home Wednesday, has been euthanized by New York state officials. 

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation took Peanut, as well as a raccoon named Fred, on Wednesday after the agency learned the animals were “sharing a residence with humans, creating the potential for human exposure to rabies," it said in a joint statement with the Chemung County Department of Health.

Both Peanut and Fred were euthanized to test for rabies, the statement said. It was unclear when the animals were euthanized.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 96 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The only charge is "potential to spread rabies" and they killed the animal to test for that (for some reason). So, if the test comes back negative, they will make full repariations right?

[–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the cruelty is the point. The kind of people who made this happen have common sense just like the rest of us, that 7-year-old squirrel didn't have rabies. They refuse to make exceptions or use common sense because they specifically want to hurt others.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I feel like these are kneejerk reactions to the headline. Think with your brain not your heart (I'm not trying to be an ass, forget about the cutesy animals and think about this guy owning wild animals and exploiting them for money on social media) The cruelty is not the point. You can't just own wild animals without a license and without veterinary care...

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

full repariations

And surely such reparations would take into account future lost revenue, as they would be expected to it this were a regular person against a corporation.

Surely.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly I think the monetary value of a cat is like $15 reimbursed. I imagine a squirrel is worth even less.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How about the monetary value of a social media influencer with half a million followers

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

One that was being kept illegally? Probably worth a fine

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's because rabies infects the brains of animals, so that's the tissue that is tested.

I'm wondering why the people who were caring for the animals didn't just get them rabies shots in the first place.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder why animal control officers who handle animals suspected of having rabies DON'T HAVE THEIR FUCKING RABIES VACCINATION. I needed a thousand dollar shot just to volunteer for a fucking animal shelter.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

to test for rabies, couldnt they have just observed the animal in some quarantine for the gestation period of the disease?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They could have, but if the animal had already bitten a human, that extra few weeks' wait is dangerous.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

got it, this was pure animal control spite. they only claimed a bite after they seized the animal 'for testing'. their timeline is bullshit.

at least some good came of it

Longo and his wife moved to Upstate New York last year to start P'Nuts Freedom Farm Animal Sanctuary, which is named for his pet and officially opened in April 2023

Not necessarily, they're asking for donations for legal battles.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Anyone bitten by ~~a wild~~ an animal should be treated for rabies. To wait for the animal to be tested, quickly or slowly, is just foolish. This animal could have been quarantined and observed without any danger to the bite victim.

edit: the animal needn't be wild, just as this one was not.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the prophylactic really fucking sucks to take AFAIK, you want to avoid it just a little bit less than rabies.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The newer vaccine is far less painful and even then, there’s not much that’s as bad as rabies.

You want to avoid rabies harder than anything other than being immolated… and really that still might be preferable because it is faster.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

The vaccine was separate from the post-exposure prophylactic I had thought. I will look it up for myself.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

These keyboard warriors don't understand how fucked up rabies can get. ~~Near~~ 100% fatal once the infected becomes symptomatic, and it's probably one of the worst disease-related deaths I can imagine. I'd rather take a cyanide pill.

I live near a forest where the fox population had to be culled because of the potential contact between humans or their pets and infected animals. There were billboards and television announcements that warned against approaching a wild animal that is acting friendly because it's an indicator of infection.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These animals lived with their owner for years and were consistently photographed for Instagram. Yeah, people know how bad rabies is. They clearly didn't have it.

And officials are saying that no wildlife rehab service in the entire state of New York could take these two in? Internet famous, celebrity animals? Man, whoever believes that, I've got some land to sell ya.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is a prophylactic for rabies. The squirrel had to be destroyed because it bit a human whose job it was to work with animals suspected of having rabies. These people are already trading human well-being for the sake of the price of a slightly expensive shot. It's theater to suddenly pretend to give a shit about rabies after you've had one of your employees get bit.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Just have to chime in and say 100% fatal once symptomatic. I really hope someone corrects me but I'm pretty sure there has never been a confirmed case with a recovery; we have a treatment that works, but has to be given relatively soon after exposure.

Edit: lol, was the downvote for me hoping I was wrong, or being wrong?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There were cases where symptomatic patients survived, but the number is in the lower single digits and they all suffered debilitating neural damage. I wouldn't call it recovery, no.

The immunoglobulin treatment aims to eliminate the pathogen before it can infect the nervous system. Once that happens, once the headaches start, it's game over.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh wow, that's pretty awesome (not the debilitating neural damage part), I was always under the impression that by the first symptom it was a death sentence.

I still never want anything to do with it, but at least it isn't as bleak as I had been lead to believe.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's called the Milwaukee protocol, and it's considered to be a failure.

The patient is put in a medically induced coma and treated with strong antiviral medication until the natural immune system can produce antibodies, but even a successful treatment doesn't guarantee survival. Also, the debilitating neural damage. Honestly, I might still prefer a morphine overdose.

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

No, rabies is an absolutely bizarre virus. The progression of the disease is highly variable. The person peanut bit could star displaying symptoms before peanut. Once symptoms show up, you are essentially dead. Rabies has one of the highest death rates of know human diseases. The only definitive way to test for rabies is testing brain tissue. The amount needed for a high confidence result is too much for the animal to survive. So the animal is always euthanized. That why having all pets that can be vaccinated, vaccinated is so important.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

Like 7 years in a house?

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Rabies vaccine is only made for a handful of animals. For example a vaccine is made for domestic sheep but not for domestic goats. Goats and sheep are closely enough related that goats owners have their animals vaccinated using the sheep vaccinations but since they have not been officially tested, you can't say the animals have been vaccinated for rabies in a legal capacity so the petting zoo has a big sign about the rabies risk in goats.

I think this is mostly a case on NY state's sick of people ignoring their wild animal laws and with NYC especially they can't allow for people to just keep whatever animal they want and think it's okay. If Peanuts owner had been licensed as an actual wildlife rehab, it would have been different but wildlife are not pets even when they are friendly.

[–] Dirac@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Since keeping the squirrel was stupidly illegal, he couldn't get a rabies shot for it at a vet.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Likely because it is illegal to keep wildlife as pets.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately rabies testing requires samples of the brain. This is why if you are bitten by an animal you suspect of having rabies, a professional should catch it and test the animal. The tests that exist for diagnosis in living humans are not reliable.

https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/php/laboratories/diagnostic.html#:~:text=Rabies%20testing%20requires%20that%20the,after%20an%20animal%20is%20euthanized.

In this case I didn't open the story to see why they believed a domesticated squirrel needed to be tested.

Edit: somebody that didn't interact with the animals complained they might have rabies?

[–] Master@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

No. Its illegal to own as a pet. Someone reported him for that. When they were collecting peanut he bit someone and That's why they put him down.