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There’s already been a vetting process to weed out some resolutions, but this one made it through, which suggests β€œsomeone in the party thinks that this is worth debating,” Young said.

β€œI think this reminds us that the base of the UCP is host to a pretty substantial group of people who do not believe that climate change is real, or they don't believe that it is driven by human activity, and they think that any actions taken to transition away from fossil fuels are unnecessary.”

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

*its - it's is either it is or it has.

Anyhow, if you don't believe climate change is real then why not celebrate carbon?

And, even for those who do understand/acknowledge climate change, from first order consequences, this isn't a huge deal for somewhere like Alberta. Yes, bad things will happen but losing almost a quarter of your economy is also a pretty bad thing. (Consider a devastating thing like Jasper... That's cost about 800 million in insurance claims etc, even multiply that by ten and you still don't come close to the revenue from a single year of oil/gas (27.5 billion.)

Frankly, thinking through the numbers, there's a kind of nihilistic correctness to their position. The costs of climate change, for this generation of Albertans, is much less than the revenues from fossil fuels.

[–] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've made exponential profits on CNQ and fully understand how much money is generated from O&G. I'm also fully aware that many people lives will have a substantial negative trajectory due to current climate change conditions.

You can't keep going to this big profits small costs argument without details of how much benefits and burdens is allocated to the parties involved.

Also to be upfront about it. I find your grammar thing to be rather annoying so this will be the end of the conversation for me.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can't keep going to this big profits small costs argument without details of how much benefits and burdens is allocated to the parties involved.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding the original quote. Only one person's benefits (their salary) is being considered. That's basically the entire point of the quote! And frankly, that does seem to be how most people live (if people really cared about the costs to others, no one would buy sweatshop clothes.)

Also to be upfront about it. I find your grammar thing to be rather annoying so this will be the end of the conversation for me.

To be upfront about it,, I find poor grammar annoying and the second hand embarrassment bugs me. Like people misusing exponential to simply mean lots or rapid, without actually being exponential. (If you'd made exponential profits, even a small investment of 1k would mean you're sitting on a million now.)

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are placing your annoyance at other peoples' grammar above the desire to actually communicate with them, which means you're just here to masturbate in public.

You get that, right?

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that person had said anything interesting, maybe it'd be different. But another "those people don't believe what I believe and so are evil/stupid" comment, well it's pretty childish and dull. And rife with poor grammar!

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

May you're future online interractions be full off grammer mistakes.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ahaha, that's a great sentence and a brutal curse! I legit wonder if that would be the end of social media for me.

Or the difficulty in some sort of extension to autocorrect said media on one's browser?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In all seriousness though, you appear to have hyperlexia, I do too and I shared your frustration for many years until I understood that fact and, as a result, sympathized a bit more with those who don't.

I can find double spaces anywhere in text, I know a word or sentence looks "wrong" just by looking at it without necessarily being able to explain the grammar rule behind it, and my brain stops reading at misspelled words as it can't comprehend them, it can be frustrating at times. It's usually comorbid with neuro-divergence.

You should probably be nicer to those who aren't blessed with it, the poster above might even be dyslexic and have great difficulty with reading and writing as a result. If that's the case, we should celebrate the fact that most of the words are correct! πŸŽ‰

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Possibly! Though really I think it more comes from my general dismay at the dumbing down of culture in general. Every day feels closer to idiocracy and missing you/you're seems like a symptom.

But maybe I'll try thinking of the internet as a sea of dyslexics, just in case...

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Take solace in knowing that literacy rates are the highest they've ever been in history, the fact that most words are correct is an incredible feat.

Most people think how they speak rather than how they write, which means homophones are quite difficult for the average person, and near impossible without thinking about it hard and remembering the rule every time if you're dyslexic.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Global literacy, probably. But I think functional reading/literacy has been falling behind in most Western democracies, especially America.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that's not the fault of individuals, but of a failing education system.

Blaming individuals for what is a systemic failure could make them less receptive to change.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Blaming individuals for what is a systemic failure could make them less receptive to change.

Ironically, that's almost exactly how I feel about trump/conservative voters.

Were I trying to actually change people's future grammar, I'd totally agree.

But to elaborate on what I said earlier, if someone is going to come flying in from the top rope with some childish/boring "everyone with whom I disagree is a stupid/racist/evil" well, I don't particularly care about the convo anymore, I'll tag them as a waste, let myself correct their grammar, respond however and move on, ignoring their comments when I see them in other threads.

I generally don't correct grammar until I'm already annoyed. But once someone is a silly, well, as the Emperor urged, I give into my anger.

Lemmy has interesting folks like yourself but also a lot of not particularly interesting children.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a confession that you are not well enough to participate in online discussions. Show this to someone you trust.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your history is a confession you have waaaaay too much time on your hands, do you have someone you trust?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So it's not just poor grammar you can't tolerate, but also criticism. And yet you are so free with it.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Wait, making fun of you is being unable to handle criticism but you responding to it is you tolerating criticism?

I'm now a little curious what your rules are.