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Folks literally have no conept anymore that you can just slap HTML on a page. & with the advent of needing TLS, it starts to become more technical than a lot of folks want to bother learning & maintain versus the days of raw FTP uploads.
Yeah but a basic Wordpress.com site could do exactly the same thing for free. Or for super cheap if you want your own domain.
There’s also a jillion places to host static sites with less complexity of the code albeit more complexity to get started for many non-developers. The thing is there was a time when high schools everywhere were teaching basic HTML so you could be a part of this new internet thing, but now folks don’t think they can have their own chunk anymore separate from the corporations. You still can but the knowledge seems lost & certain technically hurdles like TLS which I mentioned make it just one step more difficult.
Yeah I learnt static HTML and CSS circa 2007, but even then it felt like what we were being taught was very out of date.
I've never actually used any form of hosting for my own pages. I've run the LAMP stack on my own local server, and I've used services similar to WordPress, but never dealt with static web sites hosted by someone else. Do they not make TLS really easy for you in that circumstance?
Many of these will handle the TLS for you, but that supposes you need a specific service. Then & even now you can still host your own website / services at home without any specialized gear (I do). If IPv6 were more common, it would be even easier.
Yes, as I said, that's the only thing I've done myself—in particular, at times I've run it off of my main desktop, and at other times on a Raspberry Pi with an external hard drive attached—but that's specifically not what I was asking about because the previous comment was specifically talking about non-developers who might have that basic HTML understanding and just want a server where they can throw up an HTML file and have it served up. A goal that's more technically involved than a wordpress.com site, but less involved than self-hosting a LAMP stack and running the Let's Encrypt certbot.
(Plus, of course, the growing prevalence of cgNAT making self-hosting impossible for many people necessitates the use of a hosting company or user-friendly web service.)
Self-hosting & other content producing has been pushed against for ages. Look at the cost to get symmetric internet speeds in many places like it is somehow more expensive to upload the bits. I am pretty sure this is a part of a conspiracy to make sure everyone is a consumer for more $$$ & not expressing their own ideas except on platforms they don’t control.
Most people wouldn't have the slightest idea how to use Wordpress, nor even what a domain is, let alone how to do anything with one.
I'm not talking about WordPress.org, but WordPress.com. The basic blogging service. It's all WYSIWYG.